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Re: Hadley FC

Postby jerroll » 10 Aug 2017, 14:24

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#Beebot wrote:Do the Barnet Town obsessives have any suitable sites to suggest that we would get planning permission for?

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Nope, that's why I reluctantly put up with THL. logic for me would have been a brownfield site along st albans road beyond the golf courses which would have been within walking distance of Barnet high street but can't imagine planning consent being agreed(would have been ideal for away fans coming off of the M25/A1M)

I think that is outside LBof B, the boundary is the boundary of Old Fold Manor GC. The old police ground at Stirling Corner is in the borough though, the boundary being the A1...

don't care about the borough , it proximity to Barnet and the ability for walk up from Barnet residents like Underhill offered - prefer THL to copthall or Graham Park or Burnt Oak etc!
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby pgbee » 10 Aug 2017, 14:29

Totally agree, just saying....although now no longer within walking distance unless I set off several days in advance.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby John_c » 10 Aug 2017, 15:48

jerroll wrote:
pgbee wrote:
jerroll wrote:
#Beebot wrote:Do the Barnet Town obsessives have any suitable sites to suggest that we would get planning permission for?

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Nope, that's why I reluctantly put up with THL. logic for me would have been a brownfield site along st albans road beyond the golf courses which would have been within walking distance of Barnet high street but can't imagine planning consent being agreed(would have been ideal for away fans coming off of the M25/A1M)

I think that is outside LBof B, the boundary is the boundary of Old Fold Manor GC. The old police ground at Stirling Corner is in the borough though, the boundary being the A1...

don't care about the borough , it proximity to Barnet and the ability for walk up from Barnet residents like Underhill offered - prefer THL to copthall or Graham Park or Burnt Oak etc!



But....BARNET TOWN! :grrr: :grrr:
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby Hiveoccupier » 10 Aug 2017, 16:00

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September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.


Don't think Stirling Corner is in Barnet Town either. It's practically Borehamwood for gods sake. :-)


Urns geography is a funny thing. It is in the Underhill Ward in the Chipping Barnet constituency. :Drink1: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/en53jg
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby miguelito » 10 Aug 2017, 16:33

Hiveoccupier wrote:
John_c wrote:
September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.


Don't think Stirling Corner is in Barnet Town either. It's practically Borehamwood for gods sake. :-)


Urns geography is a funny thing. It is in the Underhill Ward in the Chipping Barnet constituency. :Drink1: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/en53jg


The old Met Police sports ground is in High Barnet Ward. You've tagged the Harvester pub across the road (in Underhill).

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Re: Hadley FC

Postby Hiveoccupier » 10 Aug 2017, 16:46

miguelito wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
John_c wrote:
September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.


Don't think Stirling Corner is in Barnet Town either. It's practically Borehamwood for gods sake. :-)


Urns geography is a funny thing. It is in the Underhill Ward in the Chipping Barnet constituency. :Drink1: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/en53jg


The old Met Police sports ground is in High Barnet Ward. You've tagged the Harvester pub across the road (in Underhill).

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I stand corrected ! It is still in Barnet of course.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby John_c » 11 Aug 2017, 07:39

Hiveoccupier wrote:
John_c wrote:
September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.


Don't think Stirling Corner is in Barnet Town either. It's practically Borehamwood for gods sake. :-)


Urns geography is a funny thing. It is in the Underhill Ward in the Chipping Barnet constituency. :Drink1: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/en53jg


Geography indeed. I don't recall it being in the mythical Barnet Town "map" though?
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby ricardobee » 11 Aug 2017, 07:56

"Geography indeed. I don't recall it being in the mythical Barnet Town "map" though?"

Certainly in the mythical (as some might call it) Barnet, Hertfordshire though!
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby becbee » 11 Aug 2017, 08:08

Why are some people so hung up on whether or not somewhere falls into the London Borough of Barnet? The Morrisons on the other side of Stirling Corner is in Borehamwood. All the looking at maps will not change anything, TK tried for years to get a site in LB of B, it proved impossible then and nothing has changed since - except that we now have a good ground just outside the borough boundary.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby Hiveoccupier » 11 Aug 2017, 08:53

John_c wrote:
Hiveoccupier wrote:
John_c wrote:
September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.


Don't think Stirling Corner is in Barnet Town either. It's practically Borehamwood for gods sake. :-)


Urns geography is a funny thing. It is in the Underhill Ward in the Chipping Barnet constituency. :Drink1: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/en53jg


Geography indeed. I don't recall it being in the mythical Barnet Town "map" though?


Clearly your memory is not what it was John.High Barnet, New Barnet, East Barnet, Underhill were all part of the area.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby Hiveoccupier » 11 Aug 2017, 09:00

becbee wrote:Why are some people so hung up on whether or not somewhere falls into the London Borough of Barnet? The Morrisons on the other side of Stirling Corner is in Borehamwood. All the looking at maps will not change anything, TK tried for years to get a site in LB of B, it proved impossible then and nothing has changed since - except that we now have a good ground just outside the borough boundary.


Because the Hive is in Edgware Becbee. Whether you understand them or not some people decided they didn't want to support a club that moved to a different town in a different Burrough even if it did retain its name.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby StephenM » 11 Aug 2017, 09:04

September1907 wrote:I would have loved the club to have been at Stirling Corner , I don't care if it's a Brown , Green or Pink site, it should be Black and Amber site.The site has been derelict for at least 30 years. If Tottenham Hotspurs can build there large training ground on a greenfield site then anything should be possible. alternatively convert one of the 10 golf clubs the council own. sadly the B2B only had backing of 100 or so fans so without a voice there was no chance. If the B2B had the backing of 800 + who knows what could have been achieved. Hadley came back to Barnet ( or Arkley) hence had support of B2B .
Hopefully someone somewhere will get a campaign up and running again in the future . Sadly I cannot see it in my lifetime but never say never, oops I just said it.

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Re: Hadley FC

Postby #Beebot » 11 Aug 2017, 09:58

I know the debate has been done to death, but I still find it astonishing that people who support a club based in a city where there is enormous pressure on land and where any site available for building is usually snapped up very quickly by hawk-like developers, cannot handle the club moving just outside the borough boundary.

Land in London is in demand more so than in any other large city in this country and arguably Europe. Needless to say when decisions are made by local and national government about who gets this land, League 2 football clubs are not near the top of this list.

Given that we were negotiating with a council led by someone as awful as Brian Coleman for many years, we're relatively lucky to have a site only just outside the boundary and not further afield.
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby MCB » 11 Aug 2017, 10:06

I agree with the above, but keep being reminded that Barnet Council own something like 10 golf courses, the highest of any council in the land, and they only bring in about £200,000 per annum combined.

It's a ridiculous sport for the predominantly well heeled, and the whole idea of keeping it as greenery is nonsense considering council residents can't go walk or picnic through the tees.

So find an appropriate golf course, split it up between New Underhill, open parks, affordable housing and then build 5 houses for the open market which will cover 15 years of profit from all 10 golf courses combined.

So what's the closest golf course to Underhill then? :?:
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Re: Hadley FC

Postby BeeBoi1980 » 11 Aug 2017, 10:08

#Beebot wrote:I know the debate has been done to death, but I still find it astonishing that people who support a club based in a city where there is enormous pressure on land and where any site available for building is usually snapped up very quickly by hawk-like developers, cannot handle the club moving just outside the borough boundary.

Land in London is in demand more so than in any other large city in this country and arguably Europe. Needless to say when decisions are made by local and national government about who gets this land, League 2 football clubs are not near the top of this list.

Given that we were negotiating with a council led by someone as awful as Brian Coleman for many years, we're relatively lucky to have a site only just outside the boundary and not further afield.


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