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Norfolk & Chance wrote:Not sure why we'd be going through a keep Barnet alive campaign bearing in mind the current set up at the hive.
Surely that's just hyperbole to support an unnecessary expansion of the stadium.
The stadium was far from full for a relegation decider a few weeks ago.
Imo the current size is appropriate for us and the suggestion (again) of Championship football is fanciful bearing in mind the same comments were trotted out justifying the move to the hive and here we are, 5 years later being relegated to non league.
Just because we are Barnet doesn't mean we get promoted by right out of the conference.
This latest relegation might be a long one, and not necessarily the last.
A stadium with a capacity for 8500 with 1000 soles rattling around it is a horrible prospect.
This is nothing to do with BTID, a place I never visit but for some on here it seems compulsory to check-in and then report on the nastiness over there.
This is plain common sense. We don't need a bigger capacity.
The atmosphere can be bad enough as it is, it'll be damn right embarrassing.
But I do appreciate that for some, the stadium is the most important aspect of following Barnet.

pgbee wrote:Having a long narrow terrace with a high back wall along the side of the pitch is rubbish. I suspect most South standers would not go there, which is of course the point , to remove the low paying end of the fan base by making the facilities to stand the worst they could be. Save by only doing half the length as there won't be enough standers to fill even that.

Agewills wrote:"As well as the likely increase in number of visitors to the ground..."

That made me laugh!

I can see the number of visitors to the ground changing...but not increasing!

pgbee wrote:Having a long narrow terrace with a high back wall along the side of the pitch is rubbish. I suspect most South standers would not go there, which is of course the point , to remove the low paying end of the fan base by making the facilities to stand the worst they could be. Save by only doing half the length as there won't be enough standers to fill even that.

Hiveoccupier wrote:

pgbee wrote:Having a long narrow terrace with a high back wall along the side of the pitch is rubbish. I suspect most South standers would not go there, which is of course the point , to remove the low paying end of the fan base by making the facilities to stand the worst they could be. Save by only doing half the length as there won't be enough standers to fill even that.

I don't think that's the point at all. TK could just develop the stadium as an all seater venue and have done with it. Her could go for rail and seating dual use stand to replace the current South stand but that would come at a totally unwarranted cost. Having a standing terrace on the East and a similar stand to the North and the South end of the ground is a good compromise. I will definitely be using the East Terrace when it is available.

As for the argument about the size of the stadium, I suspect that the size of Barnet FCs crowds is a red herring - it is and always intended to be a stadium used by multiple clubs and it would be easy to see it eventually hosting a Premier League RFU club who could fill most of it most of the time. In a strange twist to a long saga it could be that at a future date the sale of Underhill could be funding the construction of the home stadium of a Rugby club who go on to be arch local rivals to Saracens.

Norfolk & Chance wrote:

Hiveoccupier wrote:

pgbee wrote:Having a long narrow terrace with a high back wall along the side of the pitch is rubbish. I suspect most South standers would not go there, which is of course the point , to remove the low paying end of the fan base by making the facilities to stand the worst they could be. Save by only doing half the length as there won't be enough standers to fill even that.

I don't think that's the point at all. TK could just develop the stadium as an all seater venue and have done with it. Her could go for rail and seating dual use stand to replace the current South stand but that would come at a totally unwarranted cost. Having a standing terrace on the East and a similar stand to the North and the South end of the ground is a good compromise. I will definitely be using the East Terrace when it is available.

As for the argument about the size of the stadium, I suspect that the size of Barnet FCs crowds is a red herring - it is and always intended to be a stadium used by multiple clubs and it would be easy to see it eventually hosting a Premier League RFU club who could fill most of it most of the time. In a strange twist to a long saga it could be that at a future date the sale of Underhill could be funding the construction of the home stadium of a Rugby club who go on to be arch local rivals to Saracens.

I thought it was supposed to be temporary?

So if you are right Hive, then anyone thinking our stadium plans are for Barnet FC to sweep all before them and establish ourselves in the Championship is deluded beyond description.
If you are right, this plan could well be the chairman's exit plan with an RFU club as the main purpose and little old non league Barnet FC as a sideshow.
I hope you're wrong, as personally, all I'm interested in is Barnet FC.

BeesKnees wrote:I've just been looking at the plans that are on the clubs website. I assumed the south stand would be identical to the north but its not, there appear to be 11 executive boxes along the back of the stand.
There is also no sign of a roof for the east terrace, which is a pity.

ninestein wrote:The South Stand will have "mixed use space" over three floors at the rear part overlooking the car park.
The existing North Stand will have the indoor sports hall built at the rear, so once completed, both stands will probably look pretty similar in terms of bulk. From the inside of the stadium, from what I can make out, It looks like both end stands will be identical.

The interesting thing is the rear of the West Stand. The club already has planning permission for an extension to the rear of that stand, which would be built over the tarmac gangway and Legends bar entrance. I'm guessing that might have had something to do with the block D saga and providing banqueting for matchday guests, but seeing as that plan has been shelved, I wonder whether that extension will actually happen?

Also, if the East side is being converted back to a terrace, what are TK's plans to relocate matchday guests, press and club officials who currently sit around the dugout?