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A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby Hiveoccupier » 10 Jan 2018, 10:10

It would seem the Chairman is reading this forum and thinks he needs to take some steam out of things. Maybe a better approach might be to look at what people are saying, see what logical questions a raised, and take action or explain things now rather than in several weeks time.

Anyway if anyone wants to ask Tony a question here is the invitation.

https://www.barnetfc.com/news/2018/janu ... leanthous/
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby dpa » 10 Jan 2018, 10:44

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind this from the chairman, there are more important issues that need to be addressed right now and like Hiveoccupier states, it would have been better to address those immediate concerns via a 'club statement' now rather than a Q&A session that wont be replied to for some time.

Also, I do find TKs output to the Q&A as occasionally condescending and sometimes skirt around an issue without fully addressing it.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby watfordbee » 10 Jan 2018, 10:56

dpa wrote:Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind this from the chairman, there are more important issues that need to be addressed right now and like Hiveoccupier states, it would have been better to address those immediate concerns via a 'club statement' now rather than a Q&A session that wont be replied to for some time.

Also, I do find TKs output to the Q&A as occasionally condescending and sometimes skirt around an issue without fully addressing it.


Exactly his replies are predictable. Appreciate some sort of action, but come on just release a statement, even if to say MM is here for the season.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby South_Belfast_Bee » 10 Jan 2018, 11:01

Whilst I agree the Q&As have a sense of ‘kicking the can down the road’ viz a vis difficult questions at an awkward time, this is, for the time being, our best chance to get some answers.

With that in mind, perhaps as a forum we send a series of questions, signed off by as many people as possible, in the form of a joint letter.

Otherwise, I think, it is too easy for certain topics to be avoided.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby jdmckbee » 10 Jan 2018, 11:06

South_Belfast_Bee wrote:Whilst I agree the Q&As have a sense of ‘kicking the can down the road’ viz a vis difficult questions at an awkward time, this is, for the time being, our best chance to get some answers.

With that in mind, perhaps as a forum we send a series of questions, signed off by as many people as possible, in the form of a joint letter.

Otherwise, I think, it is too easy for certain topics to be avoided.


Think that South Belfast Bees idea is a good one. It will let TK know the numbers of people that feel the same way and have the same views.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby MCB » 10 Jan 2018, 11:28

jdmckbee wrote:
South_Belfast_Bee wrote:Whilst I agree the Q&As have a sense of ‘kicking the can down the road’ viz a vis difficult questions at an awkward time, this is, for the time being, our best chance to get some answers.

With that in mind, perhaps as a forum we send a series of questions, signed off by as many people as possible, in the form of a joint letter.

Otherwise, I think, it is too easy for certain topics to be avoided.


Think that South Belfast Bees idea is a good one. It will let TK know the numbers of people that feel the same way and have the same views.


Yes I liked the suggestion someone made (perhaps in mirth!) to send a 'Supporters Statement' back to the club after they issued the 'Club Statement'.

This maybe one way of getting unity - a unified set of questions asked by 100 odd forum members makes it impossible to ignore the difficult questions.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby rudebwoyben » 10 Jan 2018, 11:51

South_Belfast_Bee wrote:Whilst I agree the Q&As have a sense of ‘kicking the can down the road’ viz a vis difficult questions at an awkward time, this is, for the time being, our best chance to get some answers.

With that in mind, perhaps as a forum we send a series of questions, signed off by as many people as possible, in the form of a joint letter.

Otherwise, I think, it is too easy for certain topics to be avoided.


That sounds like a great idea to me. A statement that expresses our concerns and gives Tony K some key questions to answer is what I'd like to see.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby hoppy » 10 Jan 2018, 12:20

Come on TK.
Bite the bullet and arrange an Open Forum after one of our home fixtures.
As well as TK I would like to see representatives from the players, plus the Manager (whoever that is at the time), the Coaching staff and the PR/Media Department.
Let's thrash all the perceived problems out in verbal dialogue.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby South_Belfast_Bee » 10 Jan 2018, 13:38

https://twitter.com/barnetfc/status/951085026476789761

That’s a suspiciously fast turnaround...
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby bee007 » 10 Jan 2018, 13:45

If TK reads this Forum, or has someone else monitoring it, then why hasn't he responded in the last couple of months? This isn't a recent problem but one that has been going on for a long time. There are so many issues that is affecting Supporters one way or another, but nothing has been addressed properly. All we get is a very condescending statement from TK about not swearing at the players(while it is ok for the manager to swear at Supporters) The Q&A will be a complete whitewash as only selective answers will be given to try to appease Supporters, and not the full answers that fans want to know. The idea suggested about an open Forum after a game is the best idea, but I doubt if TK is up for a straight face to face chat. The only real way out of this Shit is for everyone from TK to the manager, players, backroom staff and supporters to all try to pull in one direction, but at the moment I can't see this happening. A final point is, where is the Supporters liaison group in all this. Surely they should have been on to TK earlier for answers as they are supposed to represent all Supporters(as we don't have an actual Supporters Club) or is it a case of they have been talking, but we only get told things when it is necessary.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby markobee » 10 Jan 2018, 13:47

Probably TK has already written the Answers.
Now he is just waiting for the Questions.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby StephenM » 10 Jan 2018, 13:56

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. There has been a call for more transparency, you've been given the opportunity to ask questions so ask them.

"it's ok for the manager to swear at supporters"...I'm not sure where you get this from, Nugent did it and was reprimanded, I'm sure the same would be in any further instances.

"only give selective answers to supporters" "Open forum after a game the best idea"...will these selective answers not be given at this open forum?

"I doubt if TK is up for a straight face to face chat"...numerous people in the past have spoken to him before and after matches.

Not really looking to defend the club at the moment, the whole thing is pretty much a shambles, but at the same time no need to go overboard on the criticism when it's not all valid.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby dpa » 10 Jan 2018, 14:00

South_Belfast_Bee wrote: https://twitter.com/barnetfc/status/951085026476789761

That’s a suspiciously fast turnaround...


Eh?

Where have the mid season questions come from?

Has anyone been asked to submit?
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby barnetpete » 10 Jan 2018, 14:11

South_Belfast_Bee wrote: https://twitter.com/barnetfc/status/951085026476789761

That’s a suspiciously fast turnaround...



Maybe someone had already emailed questions for TK and that has prompted this Q&A.

Await with interest.
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Re: A Q and A Invitation from Tony Kleanthous

Postby bee007 » 10 Jan 2018, 14:43

StephenM wrote:Damned if you do, damned if you don't. There has been a call for more transparency, you've been given the opportunity to ask questions so ask them.

"it's ok for the manager to swear at supporters"...I'm not sure where you get this from, Nugent did it and was reprimanded, I'm sure the same would be in any further instances.

"only give selective answers to supporters" "Open forum after a game the best idea"...will these selective answers not be given at this open forum?

"I doubt if TK is up for a straight face to face chat"...numerous people in the past have spoken to him before and after matches.

Not really looking to defend the club at the moment, the whole thing is pretty much a shambles, but at the same time no need to go overboard on the criticism when it's not all valid.


MM was clearly swearing at Supporters.
Selective answers will be given either on-line or at a Forum
Numerous people have spoken to TK(I am one of them) but that is groups of 2or3. Will he stand in front of 2-300. With the amount of people on this Forum and those that go to the games, you could probably fill the Banqueting Suite.
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