Martin Allen -Why ?

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fordybarnet
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Martin Allen -Why ?

Post: # 247886Post fordybarnet »

So he's definately gone to Chesterfield, the furthest away from home that he's managed, prepared to move to the area, so so much for slowing down and asking the wife etc., before taking on the Bees again.
Thanks for winding up our players in a good way, probably with them thinking you're going to stay with them for a promotional push for next season, and now letting them down and probably trying to grab Akinde in the process.
It's galling that you've gone to the team that went down with us, but then again you won't stay for long !
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Where have you seen he has gone to Chesterfield?
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It's in today's Football League and Non-League papers
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Gutted. Think he will win them the league. No loyalty whatsoever from the guy.
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Post: # 247895Post Norfolkbee »

If he does indeed end up there, it will be for two things - pounds and perceived potential. Chesterfield are perceived to a big club by National League standards. Additionally, MA has plenty of experience of how things have been run at Barnet down the years. Just witness the number of times he has ridden to their rescue. Perhaps he has simply lost faith in TK's ability to turn Barnet into a Football League club capable of going places rather than a yo-yo club. MA is not a youngsters and is probably seeking a project before he finally bows out. Of course, a big salary would also be a tempting prospect.
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It would be interesting to know how much TK was paying MA compared to what Chesterfield have offered. Chesterfield are millions of pounds in debt, so shouldn't they be paying back some of that before spending big on Managers and players. Surely under the FFP system there is a limit to what they can spend. Barnet at the moment, must have so much more money than Chesterfield so why can't we compete.
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bee007 wrote:It would be interesting to know how much TK was paying MA compared to what Chesterfield have offered. Chesterfield are millions of pounds in debt, so shouldn't they be paying back some of that before spending big on Managers and players. Surely under the FFP system there is a limit to what they can spend. Barnet at the moment, must have so much more money than Chesterfield so why can't we compete.
As I understand it, the spending limits are based on turnover, and seeing as Chesterfield have a sparkly new stadium of their own along with a fan base several times larger than ours, you would expect them to have a much higher ceiling on their spending than us.
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Tuesds wrote:
bee007 wrote:It would be interesting to know how much TK was paying MA compared to what Chesterfield have offered. Chesterfield are millions of pounds in debt, so shouldn't they be paying back some of that before spending big on Managers and players. Surely under the FFP system there is a limit to what they can spend. Barnet at the moment, must have so much more money than Chesterfield so why can't we compete.
As I understand it, the spending limits are based on turnover, and seeing as Chesterfield have a sparkly new stadium of their own along with a fan base several times larger than ours, you would expect them to have a much higher ceiling on their spending than us.
Surely the Hive complex generates more turnover than Chesterfield are achieving at the moment. Chesterfield are spending money that they don't have, while we aren't spending money we do have.
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bee007 wrote:
Tuesds wrote:
bee007 wrote:It would be interesting to know how much TK was paying MA compared to what Chesterfield have offered. Chesterfield are millions of pounds in debt, so shouldn't they be paying back some of that before spending big on Managers and players. Surely under the FFP system there is a limit to what they can spend. Barnet at the moment, must have so much more money than Chesterfield so why can't we compete.
As I understand it, the spending limits are based on turnover, and seeing as Chesterfield have a sparkly new stadium of their own along with a fan base several times larger than ours, you would expect them to have a much higher ceiling on their spending than us.
Surely the Hive complex generates more turnover than Chesterfield are achieving at the moment. Chesterfield are spending money that they don't have, while we aren't spending money we do have.
Or it could be argued that Chesterfield are willing to speculate to accumulate. This is ok providing the speculations pays off.
On the other hand, we all know that TK has never really been a speculator and, with the possible exception of Barnet Football Club itself, likes to make a profit on his ventures.
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pgbee wrote:https://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/news/ ... a-hearing/

Yes why would you go there?
If found guilty, couldn't they have a transfer embargo or points deduction put in place for next season? None of this makes sense as MA couldn't commute up there so would need to relocate or live in digs. I wonder if there's any truth in this rumour, but not that this matters to us. I just thank him that he showed our squad of players were a lot better than second bottom of the league and capable of so much more than the long list of managers could get out of them. We finished on a high which should bode well for next season.
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Norfolkbee wrote:If he does indeed end up there, it will be for two things - pounds and perceived potential. Chesterfield are perceived to a big club by National League standards. Additionally, MA has plenty of experience of how things have been run at Barnet down the years. Just witness the number of times he has ridden to their rescue. Perhaps he has simply lost faith in TK's ability to turn Barnet into a Football League club capable of going places rather than a yo-yo club. MA is not a youngsters and is probably seeking a project before he finally bows out. Of course, a big salary would also be a tempting prospect.
Nice shiny stadium, but...

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[quote="NorfolkbNice shiny stadium, but... two successive relegations- not a happy camp

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Post: # 247904Post amberforever »

God, I feel disillusioned with football.
Just googled MA and it gave this: :....:

Martin Allen (born 1964) is a British teenager who mysteriously disappeared on 5 November 1979. No trace of Allen has been found and his fate remains unknown.
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alexbach wrote:
Norfolkbee wrote:If he does indeed end up there, it will be for two things - pounds and perceived potential. Chesterfield are perceived to a big club by National League standards. Additionally, MA has plenty of experience of how things have been run at Barnet down the years. Just witness the number of times he has ridden to their rescue. Perhaps he has simply lost faith in TK's ability to turn Barnet into a Football League club capable of going places rather than a yo-yo club. MA is not a youngsters and is probably seeking a project before he finally bows out. Of course, a big salary would also be a tempting prospect.
Nice shiny stadium, but...

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