Bury FC

[HertsBee]

The EFL have set a precedence here. They have expelled Bury for their financial problems and failure to meet any of the requirements needed by the EFL despite having 3 extended deadlines. Bury now claiming it is unfair to throw them out of the League, and should be demoted to League 2 for next season. What if the same scenario happens with a League 2 club, because if they are then demoted putting them out of the League, they could go to court stating that Bury weren't put out of the League, so why should they. Bury should just accept the situation and move on with either re-building or re-forming. If this so called Brazillian(who has changed names twice since the offer of £7 million) has the money, why hasn't he already paid of all outstanding debts. Bury have short memories, as in 1993 when we had a rogue Chairman(Fat Stan) they were one of the first clubs to vote for our expulsion. Now they have a rogue Chairman they want everyone to feel sympathy for them. Well it's Karma and tough shit.

[barnetjohn]

Sort of X-bumble. EFL was worried club couldn't fulfil its fixtures. So postponed the first few matches and gave club deadline to find a buyer. As they didn't find one EFL kicked them out.

EFL's primary concern was that there were only so many postponed games they could accept because resultant fixture congestion would be too great.

But if that was primary concern EFL could have just said Bury are banned for a season, automatically relegated but start in league 2 next season (perhaps with a points deduction) rather than expelling them outright. That would have met their stated goal of avoiding fixture congestion and a club going under mid way through the season when some sides have played them and others haven't.

Club will likely now fall into insolvency now. Would probably have done so under my above scenario but would have at least had a chance. EFL could have relegated them further (e.g. conference) too.

[barnetjohn]

The EFL have set a precedence here. They have expelled Bury for their financial problems and failure to meet any of the requirements needed by the EFL despite having 3 extended deadlines. Bury now claiming it is unfair to throw them out of the League, and should be demoted to League 2 for next season. What if the same scenario happens with a League 2 club, because if they are then demoted putting them out of the League, they could go to court stating that Bury weren't put out of the League, so why should they. Bury should just accept the situation and move on with either re-building or re-forming. If this so called Brazillian(who has changed names twice since the offer of £7 million) has the money, why hasn't he already paid of all outstanding debts. Bury have short memories, as in 1993 when we had a rogue Chairman(Fat Stan) they were one of the first clubs to vote for our expulsion. Now they have a rogue Chairman they want everyone to feel sympathy for them. Well it's Karma and tough shit.

If Bury relegated multiple divisions then that would be the precedent.

Even then, EFL at liberty to change its own rules so as long as any future relegation followed any rule changes they wouldn't be challengable in court on precedent grounds. Courts can only rule on whether EFL followed own rules. If rules change, past treatment of others under old rules doesn't matter.

[hoofer2]

The EFL have set a precedence here. They have expelled Bury for their financial problems and failure to meet any of the requirements needed by the EFL despite having 3 extended deadlines. Bury now claiming it is unfair to throw them out of the League, and should be demoted to League 2 for next season. What if the same scenario happens with a League 2 club, because if they are then demoted putting them out of the League, they could go to court stating that Bury weren't put out of the League, so why should they. Bury should just accept the situation and move on with either re-building or re-forming. If this so called Brazillian(who has changed names twice since the offer of £7 million) has the money, why hasn't he already paid of all outstanding debts. Bury have short memories, as in 1993 when we had a rogue Chairman(Fat Stan) they were one of the first clubs to vote for our expulsion. Now they have a rogue Chairman they want everyone to feel sympathy for them. Well it's Karma and tough shit.

If Bury relegated multiple divisions then that would be the precedent.

Even then, EFL at liberty to change its own rules so as long as any future relegation followed any rule changes they wouldn't be challengable in court on precedent grounds. Courts can only rule on whether EFL followed own rules. If rules change, past treatment of others under old rules doesn't matter.

Rules will only be bent if said club is West Ham. It's the West Ham way after all

[hoppy]

Bury AFC the Phoenix club set up after the demise of Bury FC will play in the North West Counties League next season.

[hoppy]

There were 750 (yes, seven hundred and fifty) applicants for the managers job at Bury AFC.
If DC does leave the Bees I don't think we will have any problems replacing him.

[HertsBee]

The problem is that TK never advertises the job. It's always an ex player, friend of a friend or someone that knows someone. Perhaps by advertising nationally, TK might just be surprised exactly who would be interested in the job.

[HertsBee]

Meanwhile, Bury FC will find out next week if they are to be accepted to NLN. If so, Gloucester will be transfered to NLS.

[Ajtheone04]

There were 750 (yes, seven hundred and fifty) applicants for the managers job at Bury AFC.
If DC does leave the Bees I don't think we will have any problems replacing him.

My response to that: aren't they lower than tier 8 and won't that mean that it's part time gaffers applying

[hoppy]

There were 750 (yes, seven hundred and fifty) applicants for the managers job at Bury AFC.
If DC does leave the Bees I don't think we will have any problems replacing him.

My response to that: aren't they lower than tier 8 and won't that mean that it's part time gaffers applying

The guy who got the job, Andy Welsh, was a very experience EFL player.

[rudebwoyben]

Meanwhile, Bury FC will find out next week if they are to be accepted to NLN. If so, Gloucester will be transfered to NLS.

I can’t see the NL accepting Stephen Dale’s promises at face value. I’d be very surprised if they were accepted.

[StephenM]

The problem is that TK never advertises the job. It's always an ex player, friend of a friend or someone that knows someone. Perhaps by advertising nationally, TK might just be surprised exactly who would be interested in the job.

There would be no need to advertise a vacancy at any football club from this level upwards. A managerial job vacancy is never a secret and you can be 100% sure that once a job opens up any chairman will be inundated with CV's from out of work managers.

[Anthony]

The problem is that TK never advertises the job. It's always an ex player, friend of a friend or someone that knows someone. Perhaps by advertising nationally, TK might just be surprised exactly who would be interested in the job.

Adverts might help small regional teams, but there’s no need for Barnet to advertise. If potential candidates aren’t aware of the vacancy, then they are no way near plugged in enough to be a successful manager for Barnet.

[Norfolk & Chance]

It's not illegal to not advertise job vacancies but it does help considerably toward avoiding any accusations of discrimination, even if none exists.
With no adverts it can just look like who you know, not what you know.
A cheap one off advert ticks the box and as has been mentioned, you never know who might apply.

[ETBee]

I hear that Sol Campbell is top of the list if DC leaves.....