Their is never any mention of Barnet fc in any of the local freebie newspapers , Harrow times etc ..
maybe a promo in them might help raise awareness .,
BeeBoi1980 wrote:There's loads wrong with the club, and some of the quick wins not addressed frustrate me no end (yes I know it's not on the playing side but FFS just pre pour the beers)!
There's also plenty that's good about the club, facilities, financial health etc.
Now, Barnet despite our proud history weren't much of a club until Barry Fry came along, not in the way we know the club today anyway. He worked with a basket case chairman, we had zero stability and we were in our (beloved) ramshackle ground. OK there was some creative accounting that helped us achieve success, but ultimately what made us into a bigger and more successful club was that we had one guy who understood what it took to create a club. Not a team, a club. He pulled the whole thing together.
We have had plenty of good and poor people in charge since Barry Fry. But we MIGHT for the first time in a long time have someone in charge who gets it, who gets us, and who can influence ALL areas of the club. The game has changed a lot since the Fry days, but Darren appears to understand the juggling act required in the current environment.
Things aren't always going to be rosy, and the fans appreciate Darren's honest updates. I assume the recent silence from the chairman is partially down to the fact that Darren is involved in the financial and strategic side, and so he is able to update us there. He also seems to get that players are people, and treat them as such. He is realistic about the division. He is implementing a style. He trusts youth. He knows what he wants (Barham who I rate isn't playing, seemingly Darren doesn't want him right now, which is sad for the individual, but shows the manager trusts his own judgement). I also don't doubt that Darren has an idea that the marketing arm of the club has a lot of work to do.
You could probably carry on serving p*ss in the bars, charge what you want for admission, have a broken scoreboard and employ heavy handed stewarding, but if Darren is the right man, and he builds something here similar to the Accrington and Lincoln success stories of late, the crappy bits won't seem as big a deal. And people will come back.
One successful season won't do it, but I genuinely think if we can get 4 or 5 seasons from Darren he could well be the one to take us on a decent journey. But that's not to say TK shouldn't be tweaking a few things here and there in the meantime.
aclassman wrote:I was a season ticket holder for many years and even after we moved to the Hive I continued till 2 year ago.
To me its the lack of atmosphere that is driving supporters away and not necessarily the ticket price or the football being played as that has improved a lot under DC.
Some fans moan about all these extra fans that turn up for the big games like Sheffield away and Brentford at home.
Well yes those fans do pick and choose games but these games are the ones with an atmosphere.
To get the crowds back, then TK needs somehow to create an atmosphere but I don't know how that's possible to do.
Maybe a band behind the goal like the FA have at every game.
We miss the drummer and the old east terrace and that's killed the crowd off more than the football or moving to edgeware has
aclassman wrote:I was a season ticket holder for many years and even after we moved to the Hive I continued till 2 year ago.
To me its the lack of atmosphere that is driving supporters away and not necessarily the ticket price or the football being played as that has improved a lot under DC.
Some fans moan about all these extra fans that turn up for the big games like Sheffield away and Brentford at home.
Well yes those fans do pick and choose games but these games are the ones with an atmosphere.
To get the crowds back, then TK needs somehow to create an atmosphere but I don't know how that's possible to do.
Maybe a band behind the goal like the FA have at every game.
We miss the drummer and the old east terrace and that's killed the crowd off more than the football or moving to edgeware has
Masuka wrote:Everyone seems to be writing essays on this subject. Why?
There is one reason only: the correlation between good football and attendance is linear.
DC is getting things going in the right direction but we need to get back in the League and then a few seasons of at least play-off level football for a decent regular crowd to establish itself.
Masuka wrote:Everyone seems to be writing essays on this subject. Why?
There is one reason only: the correlation between good football and attendance is linear.
DC is getting things going in the right direction but we need to get back in the League and then a few seasons of at least play-off level football for a decent regular crowd to establish itself.
Masuka wrote:Everyone seems to be writing essays on this subject. Why?
There is one reason only: the correlation between good football and attendance is linear.
DC is getting things going in the right direction but we need to get back in the League and then a few seasons of at least play-off level football for a decent regular crowd to establish itself.
#Beebot wrote:Tuesds wrote:To bee or not to bee wrote: Although he loves Barnet FC I blame TK. He took his eye off the ball with the ridiculous ill conceived Pecking Order project. £600,000 squandered and what is there to show for it. A brick wall in the bar.If he’d spent half that on the team we might not have been relegated. It makes my blood boil.
Clearly Pecking Order was a failure, but if it makes you feel any better, it surely won’t have been the case that the chairman had £600k burning a hole in his pocket and chose between spending it on players and spending it on buttermilk battered chicken.
The money invested in Pecking Order once would have been intended to bring in more money overall on an ongoing basis. In other words, to enable us to have a bigger annual playing budget and hence a better team. No, it didn’t work in the case of Pecking Order, but it has with other facilities at The Hive.
Also, we spent loads on the team for the relegation season. We’d been on a huge splurge in the January before and still had most of those players. morecambe manager Jim Bentley even moaned that he was having to compete with moneybags clubs like Barnet, giving us as the one specific example who weren’t competing on a level playing field because of all the money we spent!
Then in the pre-season brought in big signings who were a clear step up in quality from those made in earlier pre-seasons,like Coulthirst, Brindley and of course Tarpey. There were a lot of reasons why we got relegated, and a lot of mistakes were made. I don’t think general scrimping on the squad was one of them.
TK claimed we had a top half budget that season. The big problem was injuries, failing to get the Fuad Sule deal over the line in August (and why did we seem to prioritise Malakai Mars?), the awful appointment of McGhee and holding onto him for far too long, the backroom mess with Thorne and later McGhee, refusing to appoint Allen at Christmas when he sensibly told TK that we were in a relegation battle but TK genuinely still thought we could make the playoffs, appointing Westley, Westley's shocking January transfer business (Nicholson etc) - the list goes on.
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