Heineken are not and were not on strike!

[Jimbokav1971]

Hi All.

I have been reading the ridiculous statement from TK about the shambles that was Saturday and just wanted to share some info with you.

I'm an ex Publican and I now work in Logistics in the Midlands, so not only do I keep my ears/eyes on stuff in the pub trade, I also have a vested interest in knowing about the Logistics World, (particularly the Logistics World in the Midlands, and even more specifically, in Wellingborough).

Heineken were not on strike last week and won't be on strike next week.
Even if they were, it wouldn't make any difference because Heineken don't deliver their own beer.
It used to be delivered on their behalf by a company called Kuehne+Nagel, but they sold their distribution for most of their contracts to a company, (based in Wellingborough), called XPO Logistics.
So XPO Logistics deliver Heineken beer. Heineken "draymen", are employed by XPO Logistics.
XPO Logistics staff did vote to start strike action tomorrow morning, (Tuesday 24th Aug), but this industrial action was cancelled (on Friday 20th August).

TK claimed that Heineken were on strike. This is not true.
Even if he got it wrong and meant that XPO Logistics were on strike, this is also not true.

I have a few questions.

1. Did TK like about Heineken being on strike, or is he just completely and utterly clueless?
2. If TK lied about this, what else has he lied about?
3. Does TK run any of his other businesses in the shambolic way that he runs Barnet FC?
4. If he doesn't run any of his other businesses in the shambolic way they he runs Barnet FC, why do we think that he runs this particular business this way?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting someone like TK to know the truth about the XPO Logistics situation. I am expecting whoever TK employs to run the bars at the Hive, (he will need a personal license), to know this sort of thing. The problem is, (a little like sacking a Chef at HT during the 1st game of the season), the 1 thing that we do know about TK is that his recruitment of Managers is appalling. It would seem that this isn't limited to Football Managers but also extends to Food and Beverages Managers.

Our club is not being run as a proper business. We gave TK the benefit of the doubt when he spoke to Mem and Iain last season, but the evidence just doesn't stack up. He wants to do everything on the cheap, (at the club), when there is absolutely no way that other parts of his empire would be treated in this way.

It's really simple. All he has to do is employ people to Manage the things he either doesn't know about, or doesn't want to know about. Just like the management structure at the football club desperately needed a complete overhaul, (and thankfully we've had one now and it would seem that there is at least a structure in place that will move us forward over the medium-long term), the structure of management at the Hive needs a complete overhaul.

You might have heard the name Ricky Bartlett from TK over the last year or so. He's the much vaunted "Logistics Expert" who TK has made such a big deal about employing. Oh wow. It's really quite astonishing that our "Logistics Expert" didn't stop TK from making an arse of himself in todays statement, claiming industrial action in the Logistics Industry that simply did not happen. It makes me wonder what exactly his logistics experience is and if it''s recent or historic.

I had a little look at him on LinkedIn, even though I knew his recent history.

He was recently the COO at The Imaging Centre (which is part of TK Health).
Before that he was Decontamination Manager at BMI Healthcare.
Before that he was GM at Berendsen (which is Decontamination/Sterile operations I think).
Before that he was Commercial Director at IHSS, (Sterile operations again).
Before that he was GM in IH Sterile Services, (IHSS before it changed it's name).
Before that he was GM at Decon Sciences Ltd. Decon Sciences again deal with sterile operations and are no longer in business, (becoming insolvent).
Before that he was GM at Synergy Health PLC. (They no longer exist having been bought out by Synergy for £1.2B in 2014.
Before that he was GM at Shiloh Healthcare and that takes us back to May 1995.

So this "Logistics Expert" hasn't actually worked in Logistics, (at least not since 1995)

LinkedIn is a really interesting tool. On it you can list all the different Industries you have knowledge of. Ricky Bartlett is lucky enough to have recorded experience in 24 different Industries. The thing is, none of the 24 Industries he lists are actually "Logistics".

So again I ask, how is it that TK issues a statement, telling us about a non-existent Heineken strike, when the strike for the actual Company didn't even happen, when he has such an experienced "Logistical Expert" on the team?

[Norfolk & Chance]

"Kleanthous, probably the worst chairman in the world".

Ooops, my bad, that's Carlsberg.

[beew]

Hi All.

I have been reading the ridiculous statement from TK about the shambles that was Saturday and just wanted to share some info with you.

I'm an ex Publican and I now work in Logistics in the Midlands, so not only do I keep my ears/eyes on stuff in the pub trade, I also have a vested interest in knowing about the Logistics World, (particularly the Logistics World in the Midlands, and even more specifically, in Wellingborough).

Heineken were not on strike last week and won't be on strike next week.
Even if they were, it wouldn't make any difference because Heineken don't deliver their own beer.
It used to be delivered on their behalf by a company called Kuehne+Nagel, but they sold their distribution for most of their contracts to a company, (based in Wellingborough), called XPO Logistics.
So XPO Logistics deliver Heineken beer. Heineken "draymen", are employed by XPO Logistics.
XPO Logistics staff did vote to start strike action tomorrow morning, (Tuesday 24th Aug), but this industrial action was cancelled (on Friday 20th August).

TK claimed that Heineken were on strike. This is not true.
Even if he got it wrong and meant that XPO Logistics were on strike, this is also not true.

I have a few questions.

1. Did TK like about Heineken being on strike, or is he just completely and utterly clueless?
2. If TK lied about this, what else has he lied about?
3. Does TK run any of his other businesses in the shambolic way that he runs Barnet FC?
4. If he doesn't run any of his other businesses in the shambolic way they he runs Barnet FC, why do we think that he runs this particular business this way?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting someone like TK to know the truth about the XPO Logistics situation. I am expecting whoever TK employs to run the bars at the Hive, (he will need a personal license), to know this sort of thing. The problem is, (a little like sacking a Chef at HT during the 1st game of the season), the 1 thing that we do know about TK is that his recruitment of Managers is appalling. It would seem that this isn't limited to Football Managers but also extends to Food and Beverages Managers.

Our club is not being run as a proper business. We gave TK the benefit of the doubt when he spoke to Mem and Iain last season, but the evidence just doesn't stack up. He wants to do everything on the cheap, (at the club), when there is absolutely no way that other parts of his empire would be treated in this way.

It's really simple. All he has to do is employ people to Manage the things he either doesn't know about, or doesn't want to know about. Just like the management structure at the football club desperately needed a complete overhaul, (and thankfully we've had one now and it would seem that there is at least a structure in place that will move us forward over the medium-long term), the structure of management at the Hive needs a complete overhaul.

You might have heard the name Ricky Bartlett from TK over the last year or so. He's the much vaunted "Logistics Expert" who TK has made such a big deal about employing. Oh wow. It's really quite astonishing that our "Logistics Expert" didn't stop TK from making an arse of himself in todays statement, claiming industrial action in the Logistics Industry that simply did not happen. It makes me wonder what exactly his logistics experience is and if it''s recent or historic.

I had a little look at him on LinkedIn, even though I knew his recent history.

He was recently the COO at The Imaging Centre (which is part of TK Health).
Before that he was Decontamination Manager at BMI Healthcare.
Before that he was GM at Berendsen (which is Decontamination/Sterile operations I think).
Before that he was Commercial Director at IHSS, (Sterile operations again).
Before that he was GM in IH Sterile Services, (IHSS before it changed it's name).
Before that he was GM at Decon Sciences Ltd. Decon Sciences again deal with sterile operations and are no longer in business, (becoming insolvent).
Before that he was GM at Synergy Health PLC. (They no longer exist having been bought out by Synergy for £1.2B in 2014.
Before that he was GM at Shiloh Healthcare and that takes us back to May 1995.

So this "Logistics Expert" hasn't actually worked in Logistics, (at least not since 1995)

LinkedIn is a really interesting tool. On it you can list all the different Industries you have knowledge of. Ricky Bartlett is lucky enough to have recorded experience in 24 different Industries. The thing is, none of the 24 Industries he lists are actually "Logistics".

So again I ask, how is it that TK issues a statement, telling us about a non-existent Heineken strike, when the strike for the actual Company didn't even happen, when he has such an experienced "Logistical Expert" on the team?

Astonishing, but I thought something was amiss.

[Mikel Bee]

Are we getting this hung up on who was/wasn't on strike? The statement says on Tuesday they learned about a strike. It wasn't happening at that moment as implied, but was anticipated. At that point on Tuesday a strike was expected so I imagine every establishment was clammering to get their hands on what they could.

There are staff/steward/beer shortages across the country. Saturday was a disaster as a result and tarnished the day for a lot of fans. Could the club have handled it better, probably. Is it part of a larger conspiracy or done through lack of trying? I don't think so.

[Jimbokav1971]

Are we getting this hung up on who was/wasn't on strike? The statement says on Tuesday they learned about a strike. It wasn't happening at that moment as implied, but was anticipated. At that point on Tuesday a strike was expected so I imagine every establishment was clammering to get their hands on what they could.

There are staff/steward/beer shortages across the country. Saturday was a disaster as a result and tarnished the day for a lot of fans. Could the club have handled it better, probably. Is it part of a larger conspiracy or done through lack of trying? I don't think so.

I'm just going by what TK said.

He said "our usual Beer delivery didn't arrive", and then he went and blamed it on industrial action that never existed. So whatever the reason for the beer delivery not arriving, (I would suggest that it's quite possible that it was never ordered or was ordered too late), it certainly wasn't because of the reason that TK gave us.

He even went on to say that he had spoken to Heineken, (who would have told him that there was no industrial action), but he chose not to mention this. That's why they didn't allow him to buy from a different supplier.

It's simple. He's lying to us!

[beew]

Are we getting this hung up on who was/wasn't on strike? The statement says on Tuesday they learned about a strike. It wasn't happening at that moment as implied, but was anticipated. At that point on Tuesday a strike was expected so I imagine every establishment was clammering to get their hands on what they could.

There are staff/steward/beer shortages across the country. Saturday was a disaster as a result and tarnished the day for a lot of fans. Could the club have handled it better, probably. Is it part of a larger conspiracy or done through lack of trying? I don't think so.

We were out of beer on Tuesday, as per my post last week. I think this post has credibility, and this guy has a long history in posting on this forum. As I said earlier on another thread the club really needs to start telling us the truth.

[BeeDeceived]

You mention Ricky Bartlett 'the logistics expert', who has been brought in to be 'first team logisitics manager', so presumably has nothing to do with the beer you seem to be hung up on?

He was probably more worried about getting badges on the kit than getting Heineken in the bar.

[Norfolk & Chance]

Are we getting this hung up on who was/wasn't on strike? The statement says on Tuesday they learned about a strike. It wasn't happening at that moment as implied, but was anticipated. At that point on Tuesday a strike was expected so I imagine every establishment was clammering to get their hands on what they could.

There are staff/steward/beer shortages across the country. Saturday was a disaster as a result and tarnished the day for a lot of fans. Could the club have handled it better, probably. Is it part of a larger conspiracy or done through lack of trying? I don't think so.

Thursday
"Our usual beer delivery didn’t arrive and then the bombshell dropped, Heineken are on strike!"

This is taken from the statement.
Why are you spinning it Mike?
No-one thinks its a conspiracy, that's a very tired comment.
It's a competency issue, and the priority that Barnet FC receives from TK in the Hive set up.

[Jimbokav1971]

You mention Ricky Bartlett 'the logistics expert', who has been brought in to be 'first team logisitics manager', so presumably has nothing to do with the beer you seem to be hung up on?

He was probably more worried about getting badges on the kit than getting Heineken in the bar.

If he was a "Logistics Expert", he would have known all about the strike in the Logistics Industry. He then would have stopped TK blaming us having no beer on non-existent industrial action.

I'm not blaming Ricky Bartlett for us having no beer. (I'm blaming TK for that because whoever he has tasked with ordering beer is seemingly incapable of ordering beer).

I'm calling into question Ricky's suitability for a "Logistics" role, when he doesn't have any experience in the Logistics Industry.

What do you think is involved in the role of Logistics Manager and of the problems TK commented on in his statement, who do you think might have been dealing with them?

What is it you think he does?

[Mikel Bee]

Are we getting this hung up on who was/wasn't on strike? The statement says on Tuesday they learned about a strike. It wasn't happening at that moment as implied, but was anticipated. At that point on Tuesday a strike was expected so I imagine every establishment was clammering to get their hands on what they could.

There are staff/steward/beer shortages across the country. Saturday was a disaster as a result and tarnished the day for a lot of fans. Could the club have handled it better, probably. Is it part of a larger conspiracy or done through lack of trying? I don't think so.

I'm just going by what TK said.

He said "our usual Beer delivery didn't arrive", and then he went and blamed it on industrial action that never existed. So whatever the reason for the beer delivery not arriving, (I would suggest that it's quite possible that it was never ordered or was ordered too late), it certainly wasn't because of the reason that TK gave us.

He even went on to say that he had spoken to Heineken, (who would have told him that there was no industrial action), but he chose not to mention this. That's why they didn't allow him to buy from a different supplier.

It's simple. He's lying to us!

The club's account tallies with what a Barrow fan has said of their own problems.

Barnet - "I spoke with their legal department who said they would allow us to purchase products elsewhere, but it would have to be a Heineken Brand so we rang around trying to get some beer, but most pubs were not selling stock as they were in a similar position to us."

Barrow - "We ran out of beer before the Exeter game because the brewery/distributor failed to deliver. They had to buy some barrels from local pubs."

Brexit & Covid issues primarily to blame.

[BeeDeceived]

I'm calling into question Ricky's suitability for a "Logistics" role, when he doesn't have any experience in the Logistics Industry.

What do you think is involved in the role of Logistics Manager and of the problems TK commented on in his statement, who do you think might have been dealing with them?

What is it you think he does?

Most likely looks after the logistics of the football operation, as has been stated by TK before. This will encompass BFC, London Bees and the youth sides probably. Highly unlikely he'll be responsible for liasing with a brewery.

Seeing as you listed his whole CV in an earlier post, I imagine all of those health industry related roles encompassed a large amount of high urgency logistics.

Either way, it's been pretty widely reported in the MSM that there's a UK beer shortage - this article from today for example https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ember.html

[Mikel Bee]

Thursday
"Our usual beer delivery didn’t arrive and then the bombshell dropped, Heineken are on strike!"

This is taken from the statement.
Why are you spinning it Mike?
No-one thinks its a conspiracy, that's a very tired comment.
It's a competency issue, and the priority that Barnet FC receives from TK in the Hive set up.

Where's the spin? If my local supermarkets are completely out of milk and various fruit and veg as they have been in recent weeks, I'm not surprised that several lower league football clubs are struggling to get deliveries in. TK doesn't strike me as someone who would be happy about losing out on matchday revenue if he can at all avoid it.

"The UK economy slowed sharply in August as staff shortages reached the worst level on record"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busi ... 07096.html

[Anthony]

I have to say that digging a man out on a public forum and casting aspersions on his abilities based on cursory look on LinkedIn seems like a poor thing to be doing.

We are having these problems up and down the country, and I would say it’s safe to assume there has been an impact here, rather than this being a sign of the club going to hell in a handcart. I use the bars and the tea huts, but I can cope with a few missteps along the way. Perhaps it’s just me, but as it happens, I thought Saturday was ok…bit of a queue to use the tea hut, but the bar seemed fine to me.

Even if people did have trouble, so what? Is not having a pint or some chips really worth the anger that some people seem to be feeling on here?

[amberforever]

"Kleanthous, probably the worst chairman in the world".

Ooops, my bad, that's Carlsberg.

But in a way that’s strangely fitting!

[Jimbokav1971]

I have to say that digging a man out on a public forum and casting aspersions on his abilities based on cursory look on LinkedIn seems like a poor thing to be doing.

I'm not casting aspersions on anything.

TK told us this bloke was a "Logistics Expert".

What I'm actually doing is showing you that this "Logistics Expert", has never even worked in Logistics as far as I can see, (and at the very least not since 1995), and this is just another example of the way TK recruits people. He's basically just recruited a mate and then spun it to us that he's an "Expert" in the field that he has been employed in.

This isn't specifically about him. This is specifically about TK and the way he recruits, (poorly), again and again. I used the lie about the Heineken strike as an example of what anyone in the industry should have known, (and known in advance), but obviously didn't or TK wouldn't have included any of it in that ridiculous statement.

This is about nobody other than TK.