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ETBee
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Re: South Stand

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edgeog wrote:I believe the plan to create a terrace on the SE section has been scrapped as not cost effective.
This illustrates why I'm so frustrated with the club not communicating what is going on. This decision is not clear, or even mentioned, in the planning documents. Where was this reported?
Barnet loyal
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331864Post Barnet loyal »

ETBee wrote:
edgeog wrote:I believe the plan to create a terrace on the SE section has been scrapped as not cost effective.
This illustrates why I'm so frustrated with the club not communicating what is going on. This decision is not clear, or even mentioned, in the planning documents. Where was this reported?
Pretty sure that TK has said not too long ago that the removal of seats of seats and putting a terrace on the east stand was no longer a option..
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Re: South Stand

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hoofer2 wrote:
BEEGONE wrote:
ETBee wrote:But we shouldn't have to rely on Harrow Council to tell us what is going on at our club!
The club don’t care, if they cared the terrace would still
Be there and open for the past 2 seasons…
The terrace was shit and not worth getting nostalgic over.

The club did inform fans of submitted plans and were completely transparent. Nothing has changed since other than building works have finally started.

As for standing / railed seating it all comes down to condition of grant.

I wonder if installing railed seating without being used for standing is permitted?
I’m not nostalgic, I just prefer to stand at the football…

As for this stuff about grants, this needs to be checked and verified by the SA. There’s no way Morecambe and Burton built a Whole stadium with Terraces without grant money…
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DerekRocholl
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331868Post DerekRocholl »

BEEGONE wrote:
hoofer2 wrote:
BEEGONE wrote:
ETBee wrote:But we shouldn't have to rely on Harrow Council to tell us what is going on at our club!
The club don’t care, if they cared the terrace would still
Be there and open for the past 2 seasons…
The terrace was shit and not worth getting nostalgic over.

The club did inform fans of submitted plans and were completely transparent. Nothing has changed since other than building works have finally started.

As for standing / railed seating it all comes down to condition of grant.

I wonder if installing railed seating without being used for standing is permitted?
I’m nostalgic, I just prefer to stand at the football…

As for this stuff about grants, this needs to be checked and verified by the SA. There’s no way Morecambe and Burton built a Whole stadium with Terraces without grant money…
Agreed, and for me I don’t care much about the physical design of the terrace it is about meeting people you get on with and want to share the game with, and very occasionally about getting away from someone who becomes unbearable.
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PBBee
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331869Post PBBee »

DerekRocholl wrote:
BEEGONE wrote:
hoofer2 wrote:
BEEGONE wrote: The club don’t care, if they cared the terrace would still
Be there and open for the past 2 seasons…
The terrace was shit and not worth getting nostalgic over.

The club did inform fans of submitted plans and were completely transparent. Nothing has changed since other than building works have finally started.

As for standing / railed seating it all comes down to condition of grant.

I wonder if installing railed seating without being used for standing is permitted?
I’m nostalgic, I just prefer to stand at the football…

As for this stuff about grants, this needs to be checked and verified by the SA. There’s no way Morecambe and Burton built a Whole stadium with Terraces without grant money…
Agreed, and for me I don’t care much about the physical design of the terrace it is about meeting people you get on with and want to share the game with, and very occasionally about getting away from someone who becomes unbearable.
Totally agree!
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331871Post Mikel Bee »

BEEGONE wrote:
hoofer2 wrote:
BEEGONE wrote:
ETBee wrote:But we shouldn't have to rely on Harrow Council to tell us what is going on at our club!
The club don’t care, if they cared the terrace would still
Be there and open for the past 2 seasons…
The terrace was shit and not worth getting nostalgic over.

The club did inform fans of submitted plans and were completely transparent. Nothing has changed since other than building works have finally started.

As for standing / railed seating it all comes down to condition of grant.

I wonder if installing railed seating without being used for standing is permitted?
I’m nostalgic, I just prefer to stand at the football…

As for this stuff about grants, this needs to be checked and verified by the SA. There’s no way Morecambe and Burton built a Whole stadium with Terraces without grant money…
FSIF grants apply if the works are to bring a stadium up to a certain ground grading level. They have confirmed that doesn't apply in the case of the new South Stand and nor can any grant be issued for safe standing/rail seating.
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DerekRocholl
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331872Post DerekRocholl »

Do you know What ground grading level is Kleanthous trying to achieve Mikel ?

What the Hive has already is clearly well beyond anything Barnet FC is likely to need in the foreseeable. It would seem bizarre for the FSIF to hand out grants for unnecessary ground improvements.
Roy57
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331880Post Roy57 »

ETBee wrote:
edgeog wrote:I believe the plan to create a terrace on the SE section has been scrapped as not cost effective.
This illustrates why I'm so frustrated with the club not communicating what is going on. This decision is not clear, or even mentioned, in the planning documents. Where was this reported?
Believe it was also mentioned few weeks back by the new supporters association when they had meeting with TK, which was in this forum.
b4life
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331882Post b4life »

We understand that TK was having a meeting about the design for both the South Stand and East Stand. We've asked for an update from it. TK is aware of the feelings around standing from the survey we undertook.
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331884Post blitzkrieg bee »

The survey was probably pointless as TK has already made the decision ages ago
ETBee
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331885Post ETBee »

Where will the executive boxes, which we're bound to get sometime, be located. I assume that the west stand will be completely rebuilt to include these boxes and catering while the fans are shifted to the new south stand.
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331888Post letchbee94 »

When we get a good i will get excited about a new stand going up
b4life
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331895Post b4life »

blitzkrieg bee wrote:The survey was probably pointless as TK has already made the decision ages ago
Let's all just give up then, shall we?
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331900Post eastbarnetsupporter »

I would like to better understand how ripping up the East Stand seats and installing some standing safety rails is too costly/problematic? Even if it was just on the southern part of the stand?

There are only about 6 concrete rows to deal with and this could easily solve the standing situation that many bees feel aggrieved by.

It would have a bit of the old East Terrace of Underhill vibes about it (just minus a roof but we can live with that for now).
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Re: South Stand

Post: # 331904Post BEEGONE »

eastbarnetsupporter wrote:I would like to better understand how ripping up the East Stand seats and installing some standing safety rails is too costly/problematic? Even if it was just on the southern part of the stand?

There are only about 6 concrete rows to deal with and this could easily solve the standing situation that many bees feel aggrieved by.

It would have a bit of the old East Terrace of Underhill vibes about it (just minus a roof but we can live with that for now).
How much did TK profit from the sale of Underhill and yet he can’t pay for 4 rows of terracing for his loyal customers…
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