Chesterfield (A) The Chester Way I'm Fielding Match Thread

[markobee]

We had enough chances in the first half to have gone into the break 3-0 up. But we didn't convert our chances. We hit the crossbar, we had a shot cleared off the line, and a couple of great heading opportunities weren't met decisively enough.
Chesterfield came out for the second half fired up to make amends, which they duly did - with some ruthless finishing.
The turning point for me was when Kanu failed to control a long cross - keeping the ball in play, but only so as to set up the Chesterfield players to run the length of the pitch to score. There had been a warning, given us against this, towards the end of the first half, when Kanu lost the ball in the middle of the field, leading to Chesterfield storming forward to win a free kick on the edge of our penalty box.
We play in such a courageous way, that losing the ball exposes us to these fast breakaways. The best teams (such as Chesterfield) will punish these mistakes.
But as for effort and commitment, I can't fault the players. I thought they all put in a great shift. The fact that we scored two late goals is a tribute to their work-rate and their spirit.
There is no disgrace in losing to this Chesterfield team. They have built a formidable squad, and they play in a very disciplined way. I thought today's goalkeeper was their only weak link, but I know they have another keeper standing by, if their manager agrees with me.
But the season is not won or lost in November, and we have plenty of time to make up the ground which we have lost today.
COYB.

[jonbonbaby]

OK. To call that a Jekyll and Hyde performance would be… an understatement. Play like that first half all game and we will comfortably beat any side.

Second half? There are no words. I knew they are a ‘second half team’ but my God they were absolutely there for the taking. The goals we conceded were criminal. Career-worst performances from some of our players second half.

Brennan clearly panicked. Revan off for Hooper? Bizarre. Gorman was clearly needed to help regain control of the midfield. They cut through us like a hot knife through butter. Looked like we only had about 8 men on the pitch in the end.

Side note - surely now the Brunt love-in has to stop. Always goes missing when the tough gets going. Did nothing once again today. Yes nobody covered themselves in glory but he seems immune from criticism on here.

Serious lessons need to be learned for the reverse fixture or we’ll get our pants pulled down on TV. Fortunately that fixture won’t have much riding on it anymore.

Feel for our travelling supporters. You deserved so much better than that.

Next up, a strong Gateshead side who just beat Dorking 6-0. Can’t bloody wait.


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This post just honestly baffles me beyond belief!

Exactly what about this is baffling? I’d be happy to clear things up for you…


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Career worst performances?
Brennan panicked with revan for hooper - hooper was always gonna feature
Gorman should have started instead of who?

Remember chesterfield have a team superior to ours it's okay to lose against better teams we are not the finished article we've had a brilliant start to the season incredible points return long way to go let's keep the positivity

Hooper didn’t need to feature so early though did he? And I didn’t say Gorman should have started, but he should have come on for someone like Brunt who was once again totally ineffectual.

Also I hate this implication that some posters are completely negative and horrible while others are positive and lovely. It’s not that black and white.

I’ve been unequivocal in my praise for the first half. I’ve commended our character and resilience in so many games this season.

DB himself has driven high standards. We didn’t reach anywhere near those those standards second half and I don’t think it’s unreasonable or ‘baffling’ to point that out.


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I agree especially with Brunt he hasn’t been at it since he scored those 2 goals , he obviously got talent but needs to be dropped to give him a kick up the backside or change his role so he gets more involved

[becbee]

Agreed we should have scored in the first half when we were on top. But the way Chesterfield played in the second half, I suspect they might have still won anyway. We will never know. Nevertheless, even during the match I felt that regardless of the result, we could feel proud of our team and look forward for the rest of the season.

We took 664 fans to Chesterfield, I suppose it's no surprise that a few louts latched on. I'm really disappointed to hear about the behaviour on the coach. I had hoped we'd run a coach to Newport and I'd planned on using it, I wouldn't now unless those people are banned. It sounds like yesterday was a horrible experience, no football match is worth suffering that for.

I also don't understand how they managed to get away with with drinking on the coach, it's illegal to take alcohol on a football coach, let alone drink it. If the driver had been aware he should have refused to drive as the coach firm could have lost their licence to run football coaches.

As for behaviour inside the ground, I don't know about the people who were ejected but this is about one who wasn't - towards the end, a man behind us screamed abuse at one of our players, including calling him the C word.
We were so impressed with 2 of our supporters who confronted him. His response to them was "I don't like him" and "I've travelled a long way".

[John Hunt]

Re the coach.

They can get alcohol on the coach no bother as people are not searched getting on. Never have been to my knowledge. There is a need for trust which was abused.

Maybe they didn't know the rules if they were 1st time travellers or the implications if stopped by the police.

Maybe it is just a communications thing. It could be made clear from the off that anyone breaching the conditions of travel will be removed from the coach and made to make their own way back if need be. But how on earth do you enforce that with kind volunteers running the service? There should be no need. There is a duty of care with minors as well.

There have been many times when passengers have been inebriated on the coach and i suspect many have been underage which without travelling myself i am assuming may have been an issue too.

I have never in many years of using the coach been made to feel uncomfortable by the actions of any of my fellow Barnet fans.

Overly boisterous behaviour in the past was dealt with by Mr Percy and others. Peer pressure was the way to sort it. It was a question of Respect.

i hope it doesn't put the bfcsa off running more coaches and passengers like becbee using it. I can understand if so though.

It is always the case that some spoil things for others.For those who need and benefit from it rhat suffer. It is often the vocal minority who spoil things.

Maybe there needs to be a meeting between the AB and the BFCSA to resolve the situation.

[BGr]

A Chesterfield supporter said to me afterwards that at half time they believed we were the best team they'd seen all season, by far. For it's a simple summary. First half, when we were on top we didn't take our chances..Second half we made too many mistakes and they were clinical. Bizarrely, in the last few minutes, a largely ineffective and wasteful Kanu started playing well and a big shout to Senior for his performance right at the end. Hooper has shown if you give him chances, he's going to score.

Off the field embarrassing behaviour by our younger supporters, many of them known Amber Battalion members, both in the ground and on the coach. I hope the supporters chucked out get banning orders and I doubt very much if we'll run coaches ever again. They need to grow up or find another team to support, not good enough!

“Many of them known amber battalion members” it’s not a proscribed terrorist group for gods sake it’s a group of young lads who like to sing songs at the footy. And reading on national league pages on Facebook, it seems heavy handed stewarding is the norm up at chesterfield so perhaps think twice before throwing your own under the bus? Can’t speak for the coach as didn’t use it, but comments like “find another team to support” are out of order. As the leader of the SA you should be looking to encourage young fans and help them out not ostracise them.

[b4life]

A Chesterfield supporter said to me afterwards that at half time they believed we were the best team they'd seen all season, by far. For it's a simple summary. First half, when we were on top we didn't take our chances..Second half we made too many mistakes and they were clinical. Bizarrely, in the last few minutes, a largely ineffective and wasteful Kanu started playing well and a big shout to Senior for his performance right at the end. Hooper has shown if you give him chances, he's going to score.

Off the field embarrassing behaviour by our younger supporters, many of them known Amber Battalion members, both in the ground and on the coach. I hope the supporters chucked out get banning orders and I doubt very much if we'll run coaches ever again. They need to grow up or find another team to support, not good enough!

“Many of them known amber battalion members” it’s not a proscribed terrorist group for gods sake it’s a group of young lads who like to sing songs at the footy. And reading on national league pages on Facebook, it seems heavy handed stewarding is the norm up at chesterfield so perhaps think twice before throwing your own under the bus? Can’t speak for the coach as didn’t use it, but comments like “find another team to support” are out of order. As the leader of the SA you should be looking to encourage young fans and help them out not ostracise them.

Really? You're condoning behaviour resulting in getting thrown out of a football ground and illegal activities such as smoking and drinking alcohol on football coaches? Wow! Actions by idiots like these have complications for everyone else such us increased policing of away matches, reputational damage and not being unable to hire coaches. As an SA that's exactly what we shouldn't be encouraging. I can't understand why their 'enthusiasm' has to result in very poor behaviour? The singing is great, just don't be assholes! I was there and saw no evidence of heavy handed stewarding just several selfish, aggressive, immature idiots getting thrown out.

[BGr]

A Chesterfield supporter said to me afterwards that at half time they believed we were the best team they'd seen all season, by far. For it's a simple summary. First half, when we were on top we didn't take our chances..Second half we made too many mistakes and they were clinical. Bizarrely, in the last few minutes, a largely ineffective and wasteful Kanu started playing well and a big shout to Senior for his performance right at the end. Hooper has shown if you give him chances, he's going to score.

Off the field embarrassing behaviour by our younger supporters, many of them known Amber Battalion members, both in the ground and on the coach. I hope the supporters chucked out get banning orders and I doubt very much if we'll run coaches ever again. They need to grow up or find another team to support, not good enough!

“Many of them known amber battalion members” it’s not a proscribed terrorist group for gods sake it’s a group of young lads who like to sing songs at the footy. And reading on national league pages on Facebook, it seems heavy handed stewarding is the norm up at chesterfield so perhaps think twice before throwing your own under the bus? Can’t speak for the coach as didn’t use it, but comments like “find another team to support” are out of order. As the leader of the SA you should be looking to encourage young fans and help them out not ostracise them.

Really? You're condoning behaviour resulting in getting thrown out of a football ground and illegal activities such as smoking and drinking alcohol on football coaches? Wow! Actions by idiots like these have complications for everyone else such us increased policing of away matches, reputational damage and not being unable to hire coaches. As an SA that's exactly what we shouldn't be encouraging. I can't understand why their 'enthusiasm' has to result in very poor behaviour? The singing is great, just don't be assholes! I was there and saw no evidence of heavy handed stewarding just several selfish, aggressive, immature idiots getting thrown out.

I specifically said I couldn’t comment on the coach issues and of course I can’t condone breaking the law (whether I agree with that legislation or not is another issue) but if you didn’t think 5 stewards bundling a 17 year old down the gangway with such force that both the fan and 2 of the stewards fell over on a staircase (could have been badly hurt) then you’re living in dream land. If you don’t like the AB fans and their style of support then that’s fine, but spare us the pearl-clutching.

[moortownbee]

Shame that instead of focusing on a great first half performance, a travelling fan base of plus 600 to Chesterfield (not exactly around the corner) this topic has turned into a debate about fana behaviour.

I'm not going to comment on the actions/behaviour on the coach as I was not on it, but I will just say two coaches companies we've used have had substandard experiences with us.

The local coach company business is a small and incestuous business.

We will be getting a reputation if we are not careful.

[11bee717]

Drinking on the coach is one thing, it’s fairly recognised that most people of all clubs don’t follow that rule and is rarely enforced, as long as everything’s left clean and tidy, but smoking on a packed coach with no ventilation is just disgusting

[Roy57]

Bet you’ve never seen beesknees99 and Roy57 in the same room

This is your take? Naive at best to assume there is only one poster not happy with today

Spodo is a troll who who probably works for the club, I tend to take no notice.

I only added one post, and this was regarding Brunt, didn't comment on game, but still mentioned by someone I don't know, have never seen, yet he feels he has the right to post about others like myself and Beesknees99, all supporters have a right to view there opinions, I suggest Spodothebee
If you don't like certain posts just don't read them, it's quite simple. But not for the first time I have seen it mention this person is of could be a troll. Whatever rocks your boat.

[MCB]

I swear that Coaches are an Albatross around the neck of BFCSA. It was one of the most 'in demand' requests when w ran questionnaires about what we should do upon launch.

Attempts to run them largely run aground as only a fraction of these who say they'll travel on them do use them (despite being as flexible as possible re: departures).

When they do run (like Gateshead) they see the incredible selfishness of people paid and booked demanding refunds as train strikes are cancelled leading to losses on services the fans demand.

Chesterfield coaches lead to behaviour that leaves others as above saying they'll never use them again.

The sheer time and effort that goes into organising them, and the loss of money that often follows (do we see BFCSA making any money or charging membership fees?! Nope) is insane - it's the epitome of a thankless task.

Now potentially we'll struggle to get future coach hire.

All this on one of best ever seasons when supporting us away is finally a joy. I truly feel for those currently running BFCSA and the fans that will potentially miss out on getting to future away games by coach.

[john dockers shorts]

It's almost like no one has ever had a drink done something they shouldn't of done. Wake up in the morning thinking....was I an idiot yesterday!

People need to chill out. Very simple don't allow them on future coaches.

[barnetjohn]

Sad to hear about the stuff going on on the coach. I feel for the BFCSA here- they have made the effort to put on a coach, and have ended up with a lot of aggravation, people saying they wouldn't get a coach again, and probably a hefty surcharge from the coach company, not to mention reduced likelihood of being able to run coaches again. All because of the poor behaviour of a small group of fans. That is really poor- the consequences of a group of fans here are quite significant. If people want to have a drink or a smoke- that's fine if they do it in the right place, and complying with the right laws- but when people do it on coaches it has big effects on other people and is bang out of order.

I wasn't on the supporters coach, so can't comment directly on the specifics of what happened. But the challenge when you run coaches is being able to steward them, enforce the rules. That often relies on a degree of trust + passengers complying with the rules. That is tricky- both in terms of checking before departure and then enforcing rules once you are on the coach if you discover people breaking them- you can tell them to stop, but that doesn't always work. I guess it's possible, but sometimes it can be challenging.

I used to travel a lot on BFCSA coaches back in the day when Steve Percy ran them. Percy was generally pretty good at enforcing the rules, but that is partly due to his character! Not many people would willingly cross Steve (especially if we had a lost earlier that day!).

[foxy]

I swear that Coaches are an Albatross around the neck of BFCSA. It was one of the most 'in demand' requests when w ran questionnaires about what we should do upon launch.

Attempts to run them largely run aground as only a fraction of these who say they'll travel on them do use them (despite being as flexible as possible re: departures).

When they do run (like Gateshead) they see the incredible selfishness of people paid and booked demanding refunds as train strikes are cancelled leading to losses on services the fans demand.

Chesterfield coaches lead to behaviour that leaves others as above saying they'll never use them again.

The sheer time and effort that goes into organising them, and the loss of money that often follows (do we see BFCSA making any money or charging membership fees?! Nope) is insane - it's the epitome of a thankless task.

Now potentially we'll struggle to get future coach hire.

All this on one of best ever seasons when supporting us away is finally a joy. I truly feel for those currently running BFCSA and the fans that will potentially miss out on getting to future away games by coach.

Whatever did happen to Steve Percy running the coaches???? Maybe the club should have been more grateful for the job he did???!!!

None of the above would have happened on his watch!

[BeesKnees99]

Agreed we should have scored in the first half when we were on top. But the way Chesterfield played in the second half, I suspect they might have still won anyway. We will never know. Nevertheless, even during the match I felt that regardless of the result, we could feel proud of our team and look forward for the rest of the season.

We took 664 fans to Chesterfield, I suppose it's no surprise that a few louts latched on. I'm really disappointed to hear about the behaviour on the coach. I had hoped we'd run a coach to Newport and I'd planned on using it, I wouldn't now unless those people are banned. It sounds like yesterday was a horrible experience, no football match is worth suffering that for.

I also don't understand how they managed to get away with with drinking on the coach, it's illegal to take alcohol on a football coach, let alone drink it. If the driver had been aware he should have refused to drive as the coach firm could have lost their licence to run football coaches.

As for behaviour inside the ground, I don't know about the people who were ejected but this is about one who wasn't - towards the end, a man behind us screamed abuse at one of our players, including calling him the C word.
We were so impressed with 2 of our supporters who confronted him. His response to them was "I don't like him" and "I've travelled a long way".

Can I ask which player was getting this abuse?


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