Wealdston (The 75% Stadium) The Sweet and Sour Match Thread

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Roy57
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Post: # 368157Post Roy57 »

Ajtheone04 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 19:25 Someone said similar about Stevens after the Southend game (I can't remember if it was on here or on Twitter), Thompson won't work as a central centre-back for us.

It was clear as day in the first half that he had no pace, all it took was the Wealdstone manager bringing their number 11 on to run in behind and he got exposed multiple times; I don't expect him to pose any threat of getting a regular starting space once Collinge is back.

Tough loss to take, seems like we've outplayed our opponents for the last 3 games and come away with one point. Keeley's fault but that's what you're going to get with a 20 year old in goal, it's one of the trade-offs DB has had to consider when putting him in over Walker.
I watched game via stream, but like many I thought Thompson had a very good game and would of been close or would be my man of the match, but your view after Wealdstone manager to bring on there number 11, that he then got exoosed, I wasn't there and feel only those that were can confirm or deny this, if you was there it will be interesting on views of others in attendance if they feel this view is right and if this might lead to issues going forward.
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DerekRocholl wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 19:41
Mem Beespod wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 18:08 If Walker comes in then we can’t play a high line.
Would that be a bad thing, we’ve only taken 4 points out of a possible 15 since Keeley replaced Walker ?
Last season playing a deeper line we conceded far more chances to teams which is why LW looked so spectacular. He’s a brilliant shot stopper but also very limited. He doesn’t like coming off his line to sweep nor claim crosses. That in itself gives oxygen to the opposition attacks and he has to make more saves.

That deeper line was also killing us physically. You can’t play an aggressive press with your defenders miles away from your attack. There was a reason we ran out of steam last season.

For the progression of the team, DB knew we had to keep teams away from our goal and bring the defensive line higher so our team weren’t covering so much distance .

Early on it worked really well but teams have analysts and they sussed they could get in behind our defence because the gap between LW and the back 3 was huge as he was reluctant to sweep.

I’ve been told that quite early on this season he was told he had to improve parts of his game and although the shot stopping was still good, we were getting hit in behind too much and he was making mistakes.
It wasn’t long ago that we were all cursing the weakness of our high line, but since we brought it in we have been dominating the ball far more.

I like that DB is ruthless because it’s not about LW, it’s about Barnet and he’s decided that for us to progress we need a keeper that will take the pressure off our back line. Aside from a couple of goals Keeley’s been a big part of solving the high line weakness and if anything it’s the front end of our team that now needs looking at.
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Thompson calm and composed, Keeley was at fault for the goal yes, but it would’ve been irrelevant if we took one of our many chances (again). This isn’t about LW vs Keeley. Very happy with the performance again, keep the faith.
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Anyone up with National league procedures with crowd disturbances. Never mind attacking the steward hitting the ref with a pyro would surely merit some punishment. Would imagine the ref is duty bound to report such incidents.The steward incident has gone viral so he’s got his 15 minutes.
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Roy57 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 21:22
jamiefrbees wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 18:45 I recommend all the doom mongers watch the Brennan post match interview and tell me, hand on heart, if you can disagree with a single word of it.

P.s. Great to see Norwood off injured for Oldham. Boy would I love it if Ebbsfleet held them.
I agreed with 95% of what he said, and probably one of his better interviews for ages, but he said that if we keep on creating the chances we have things will come good, one point in Nine would suggest otherwise.
So what would you like to happen? Us stop creating chances? I’m gonna guess: sign a striker… even though you said we shouldn’t expect TK to spend his money. We’re far past option 1 2 and 3 on potential strikers that’s for sure.
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Post: # 368163Post Roy57 »

I feel many fans frustrating comments are because of how well in general the team has played of late, good football, played in the floor which is nice to watch, creating chance after chance but just not putting them away, you cannot fault Stead's hard work, his pressing, and this is his first season at this level, so cannot blame him, but because of the good football were playing, work rate but then end up like today drop two points of previous two games were we dropped all six points, if we were playing shot football and not creating I feel the annoyance and disappointment would not be as high.
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Post: # 368164Post tomatob »

Nudger70 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 21:45 Anyone up with National league procedures with crowd disturbances. Never mind attacking the steward hitting the ref with a pyro would surely merit some punishment. Would imagine the ref is duty bound to report such incidents.The steward incident has gone viral so he’s got his 15 minutes.
If it was a premier league game then that thug would’ve lost his job Monday morning as a present for going viral. Unfortunately National league doesn’t have that sort of traction
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tomatob wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 22:24
Nudger70 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 21:45 Anyone up with National league procedures with crowd disturbances. Never mind attacking the steward hitting the ref with a pyro would surely merit some punishment. Would imagine the ref is duty bound to report such incidents.The steward incident has gone viral so he’s got his 15 minutes.
If it was a premier league game then that thug would’ve lost his job Monday morning as a present for going viral. Unfortunately National league doesn’t have that sort of traction
Hopefully he'll have been arrested and will end up in the Magistrate Court.
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Roy57 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 21:09
BGr wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 18:08
BeesKnees99 wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 17:54 Couple more stray observations

- Horrible goalkeeping from Keeley at the end, and he was lucky with two other incidents where he nearly carried the ball out of his own box

- I’ve just seen footage of a Barnet steward getting repeatedly punched on the pitch by a piece of shit Wealdstone “fan”. The police are always busy telling you off for a rude chant, but a physical assault on the pitch and they’re nowhere to be seen.

What an absolute shambles from top to bottom.


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They need to get Walker in from the cold and back in the team as soon as possible.

As for the steward - it always amazes me how 5 stewards are always available to chuck out an amber battalion member for a rude chant or sticking a sticker, but EVERY time there is serious disruption and punches thrown (Solihull, tonight, Stockport at home in the cup a few years back) they are nowhere to be seen. The stewards seem to enjoy bullying Barnet fans but their backsides fall out when faced with some proper work to do.
At this level Stewards,or security are not paid even close to get involved in fights, if this was a regular occurance then the stewards cost per game would quadruple., Which would then mean a increase in admission, if you was getting paid a pittance to search, and jobs they do most games would you want to get involved in fights. I very much doubt it.


The bouncers in blue jackets are SIA licensed meaning they are a) paid more and b) licensed and insured to act with force against threats to public order. The lot of them shit themselves today leading a Barnet fan to stop a steward having his eye gouged out. These same stewards bully young Barnet fans week after week.
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Re: Wealdston (The 75% Stadium) The Sweet and Sour Match Thread

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Mem Beespod wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 21:42
DerekRocholl wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 19:41
Mem Beespod wrote: 03 Feb 2024, 18:08 If Walker comes in then we can’t play a high line.
Would that be a bad thing, we’ve only taken 4 points out of a possible 15 since Keeley replaced Walker ?
Last season playing a deeper line we conceded far more chances to teams which is why LW looked so spectacular. He’s a brilliant shot stopper but also very limited. He doesn’t like coming off his line to sweep nor claim crosses. That in itself gives oxygen to the opposition attacks and he has to make more saves.

That deeper line was also killing us physically. You can’t play an aggressive press with your defenders miles away from your attack. There was a reason we ran out of steam last season.

For the progression of the team, DB knew we had to keep teams away from our goal and bring the defensive line higher so our team weren’t covering so much distance .

Early on it worked really well but teams have analysts and they sussed they could get in behind our defence because the gap between LW and the back 3 was huge as he was reluctant to sweep.

I’ve been told that quite early on this season he was told he had to improve parts of his game and although the shot stopping was still good, we were getting hit in behind too much and he was making mistakes.
It wasn’t long ago that we were all cursing the weakness of our high line, but since we brought it in we have been dominating the ball far more.

I like that DB is ruthless because it’s not about LW, it’s about Barnet and he’s decided that for us to progress we need a keeper that will take the pressure off our back line. Aside from a couple of goals Keeley’s been a big part of solving the high line weakness and if anything it’s the front end of our team that now needs looking at.
This is bang on to be fair. Having watched the highlights and having had another look at it (a little calmer), the defending could have been better and it was quite clearly a mix up. It just happened to be 90+10 which makes it frustrating
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If the game didn’t inexplicably have 10 mins of extra time, we’d have been saying how comfortable we were at the back and we should have improved our goal diff.
The narrative has changed because of one error. The bigger picture is that we look so much less fragile than a few weeks ago when teams were picking us off and seemed to be running through our back line at will.
Yes we’ve had 3 wobbly games but we should have won all those games. In football if you keep doing the right thing then your luck will change
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Rather than come out and condemn the behaviour of many Wealdstone fans, their social media has called their fans heroes. Horrible club.

https://twitter.com/WealdstoneFC/status ... ibexA&s=19

I like the way DB said we acted with class, definitely a subtle dig at their club! Excellent interview by the way.
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Post: # 368171Post meden_820 »

I get that everyone is frustrated and believe me so am I. The cold hard facts of the matter are that we've dropped eight points in the last 3 games.
However, I genuinely think we've played better in the last month or so than we've played since the end of September.
Stick those three performances in the middle of our run when things were going our way and we're sitting here with 3 wins and everything is rosey.
Today we were without our four most influential players and completely pissed a top half team off the park.
Finish our chances and they are buried well before the late brain fade from Keeley (who has been fine bar that error)
Keep playing like this and someone is getting an absolute hiding very soon
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Post: # 368173Post hoofer2 »

The Wealdstone goal should have been a consolation. So so many clear chances. I can see why Keeley came out to make goal smaller but then he frog jumped so went under legs. He was very solid the rest of the game right to the limits of his area - very quick thinking to drop the ball twice
to avoid handball.

We have seen Nicke miss one on ones too this season and good that Stead got behind the defensive line through the game - Welling perfect opportunity to recalibrate. I don't think the Maguire-Drew effort crossed the line.
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Post: # 368176Post becbee »

I remember a match at Welling where we were 0-1 up, by far the better team - then Graham Stack conceded an awful equaliser late on. However Akinde got an even later winner for 1-2. I remember at the time thinking how Stack would have been crucified for his mistake if it hadn't been for Akinde's winner.
Difference yesterday was that Keeley's mistake came too late for us. But that shouldn't take away the fact that he played very well before that. He's a young lad with us to gain experience. I guess he's hurting after yesterday. Of course we're sick about what happened but let's cut him some slack.
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