Pritch

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Gavbee
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368397Post Gavbee »

Why would we assume he doesn’t bet on those other sports listed as well?
Anthony
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368398Post Anthony »

Jdk103 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:39
Roy57 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:26
Jdk103 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 17:33 We’ll just have to wait and see. If he’s got an addiction then I hope he gets the help he needs. If he’s banned, cover will be found. If he’s not, great.
I do agree if he has a addiction, but why not bet ( still gambling ) on Rugby, cricket, horses, dogs, but not in the sport your in. Stupidity.
Because that’s not how addiction works, Roy
If you listen to people who have gambling addictions, they mention doing it for the thrill and adrenaline rushes - and will often bet on any old crap they know nothing about just to experience them. No one is addicted to the process of writing out a first goalscorer bet. The options for betting now are so vast that there are numerous ways of feeding that addition without football.
Roy57
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368399Post Roy57 »

Pingorock wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 13:12 Not great news....

"As per the FA Charges released for January 2024, midfielder Harry Pritchard has breached FA Rule E8

He’s alleged to have placed 150 bets between 23rd August 2015 and 30th September 2023

Allegedly each bet is a separate breach of FA Rule E8"
Not sure how you found out about this, as sure as he'll don't believe we would hear anything from the club until the ban ( if this happens ) comes into effect, yet another scoup of information from our 007 supporters. Not had update on Gorman, Collinge, pretty much given up until there name is next announced when ever they are next ready to play.
DSM
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368400Post DSM »

Does anyone have an idea how soon this kicks in/whether there will be a hearing and then an appeal and if the process could drag on 3 months? Ie. Realistically if he was guilty how soon would the ban kick in
jerroll
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368402Post jerroll »

Roy57 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:50
Pingorock wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 13:12 Not great news....

"As per the FA Charges released for January 2024, midfielder Harry Pritchard has breached FA Rule E8

He’s alleged to have placed 150 bets between 23rd August 2015 and 30th September 2023

Allegedly each bet is a separate breach of FA Rule E8"
Not sure how you found out about this, as sure as he'll don't believe we would hear anything from the club until the ban ( if this happens ) comes into effect, yet another scoup of information from our 007 supporters. Not had update on Gorman, Collinge, pretty much given up until there name is next announced when ever they are next ready to play.
its on the FA website https://www.thefa.com/news/2024/feb/05/ ... 024-050224

also includes
MASS CONFRONTATION – NON-STANDARD CASE
Wealdstone FC

Dagenham & Redbridge FC v Wealdstone FC
National League
16 December 2023

Breach of FA Rule E20.1 - It is alleged that in/or around the 79th minute of the fixture, Wealdstone FC failed to ensure that its players and technical area occupants do not behave in a way which is improper and/or provocative.

The Club admit the Charge and elect a Paper Hearing.

Result
£2500 fine
ETBee
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368403Post ETBee »

jerroll wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 19:01
Roy57 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:50
Pingorock wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 13:12 Not great news....

"As per the FA Charges released for January 2024, midfielder Harry Pritchard has breached FA Rule E8

He’s alleged to have placed 150 bets between 23rd August 2015 and 30th September 2023

Allegedly each bet is a separate breach of FA Rule E8"
Not sure how you found out about this, as sure as he'll don't believe we would hear anything from the club until the ban ( if this happens ) comes into effect, yet another scoup of information from our 007 supporters. Not had update on Gorman, Collinge, pretty much given up until there name is next announced when ever they are next ready to play.
its on the FA website https://www.thefa.com/news/2024/feb/05/ ... 024-050224

also includes
MASS CONFRONTATION – NON-STANDARD CASE
Wealdstone FC

Dagenham & Redbridge FC v Wealdstone FC
National League
16 December 2023

Breach of FA Rule E20.1 - It is alleged that in/or around the 79th minute of the fixture, Wealdstone FC failed to ensure that its players and technical area occupants do not behave in a way which is improper and/or provocative.

The Club admit the Charge and elect a Paper Hearing.

Result
£2500 fine

Interesting about Wealdstone at D&R. I've been worried that the FA would charge Barnet for failing to control the Wealdstone "fans" on Saturday.
Nudger70
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368404Post Nudger70 »

Pritchard to have admitted guilt would suggest he was betting on his own account very foolish. Think Premiership players treated more harshly due to EPL worldwide image. They like to promote it as the best league in the world so do not want any betting scandals ruining the image. Theirs also a lot less sympathy towards a players misdemeanours whose privileged to play in the EPL.
beew
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368406Post beew »

If he is banned for 2 months, the club shouldn't pay him. We will need those wages to pay a loanee replacement. How many loans have we got and how many are we allowed in a match day squad?
Jimbokav1971
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368407Post Jimbokav1971 »

Mikel Bee wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 13:44 Presumably these bets are on games involving us or whichever club he was attached to at the time, otherwise why would it matter?
I had written here that that's not how it works and that footballers are prohibited from betting on all levels of football rather than just games/leagues in which they play, but I have checked the rule, (just to make sure), and it appears I'm wrong.

Betting 8
(a). A participant may not, either directly or indirectly, bet or instruct, permit or enable, any person for the participant's benefit, to bet, on the result, progress or conduct of a match or competition, in which the participant is participating, or in which the participant has any influence, either direct or indirect.

I'm really surprised at that. I was sure it was all football. :?:
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368409Post Jimbokav1971 »

hoppy wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 14:36 Is he innocent until proven guilty?
In other words can he play for us on Saturday?
Not really when he has admitted the charge.
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368410Post Jimbokav1971 »

#Beebot wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 16:55 From further down the FA charges document

"INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT – BETTING
Toby Hilliard, Player, Corby Town FC

Breach of FA Rule E8 – He is charged with Misconduct under FA Rule E1(b) in respect of 401 bets placed on football matches between 26 September 2015 to 27 November 2020. It is alleged that each bet is a separate breach of FA Rule E8 (as applicable).

Mr Hilliard admits the Charge and elects a Paper Hearing.

Result 
3 month suspension from All Football and Football Related Activity 
1 month immediate
2 months suspended for 18 months 
£200 fine"

Also:

"INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT – BETTING
Jake Thompson, Player, Radcliffe FC

Breach of FA Rule E8 – He is charged with Misconduct under FA Rule E1.2 in respect of 1,205 bets placed on football matches between 03 September 2020 to 20 September 2023. It is alleged that each bet is a separate breach of FA Rule E8.

Mr Thompson admits the Charge and elects a Personal Hearing.

Result 
4 month suspension from all football and football related activity. 
2 months immediate, 2 months suspended for 18 Months.
£250 fine"

So bans of 1 and 2 months respectively (ignoring the suspended element of the bans) for players who placed more bets than Pritch did.

Not as bad as some might expect.
That's quite interesting. Thanks. :hi:
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368411Post Jimbokav1971 »

PBBee wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:25 An addiction is not 150 bets in 8 years but who knows the full details.
It's not just 150 bets. It's 150 bets that breached the rules.

I thought until earlier that all Pro footballers were banned from betting on all Pro football in all Nations, but that's not what rule E.8.(a) says.

It could be that he has made 1,000's of bets, but 150 of them breached the rules.
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Jimbokav1971
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368412Post Jimbokav1971 »

beew wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 19:35 If he is banned for 2 months, the club shouldn't pay him. We will need those wages to pay a loanee replacement. How many loans have we got and how many are we allowed in a match day squad?
I just want you to think about this for a moment.

The player is already likely to have to pay a fine, and while he is out suspended he will be missing out on win/goal/whatever bonus payments in line with what's in his contract. Fingers crossed it might just be a couple of months and then one of our most consistent players will be back again. You want to stop paying him, at a time when he's likely already short of cash, (and while money might be an issue, because I tend not to see too many successful gamblers and lots of rich betting companies), so you want to see him banned, fined, miss out on the bonus payments he usually receives and then you want to add to that by refusing to pay him too?

I'm really trying hard not to swear here but come on man!

If we are going to do that then we might as well just rip up his contract and tell him to move on, (and that's a ridiculous idea).

This is probably a time he needs help and support rather than a kicking! What the hell is wrong with everyone nowadays?
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jamiefrbees
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368413Post jamiefrbees »

Jimbokav1971 wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 19:56
PBBee wrote: 06 Feb 2024, 18:25 An addiction is not 150 bets in 8 years but who knows the full details.
It's not just 150 bets. It's 150 bets that breached the rules.

I thought until earlier that all Pro footballers were banned from betting on all Pro football in all Nations, but that's not what rule E.8.(a) says.

It could be that he has made 1,000's of bets, but 150 of them breached the rules.
very good point
letchbee94
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Re: Pritch

Post: # 368414Post letchbee94 »

What a shame, silly Harry.
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