Barnet Squad 2025/26

[john dockers shorts]

Dean confirmed that Billy Clifford has gone in a interview with Talksport's Ian 'Moose'Abrahams
https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/1938367891822293077

Would have been nice of the club to have officially told us this, rather than a garbled quick comment that I missed first time of listening.

I recieved a letter from Deano about it. I assumed that was standard procedure

[hoofer2]

Dean confirmed that Billy Clifford has gone in a interview with Talksport's Ian 'Moose'Abrahams
https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/1938367891822293077

Would have been nice of the club to have officially told us this, rather than a garbled quick comment that I missed first time of listening.

I recieved a letter from Deano about it. I assumed that was standard procedure

Getting a message saying that link is deleted

[Ajtheone04]

Dean confirmed that Billy Clifford has gone in a interview with Talksport's Ian 'Moose'Abrahams
https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/1938367891822293077

Would have been nice of the club to have officially told us this, rather than a garbled quick comment that I missed first time of listening.

I recieved a letter from Deano about it. I assumed that was standard procedure

Getting a message saying that link is deleted

Here is the new one - he originally posted it with video but assume the club were unhappy with all the leaked info in the background

https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/193 ... n7j0Q&s=19

[Jimbokav1971]

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/193906 ... 93435?s=46

Got a Brentwood town follower & a Southend ST holder in the office & this guy & his agent have been slutting themselves out since January. Time to make a decision for him.

He's one I thought we were in for in Jan. Seems pretty raw, but isn't this the sort of striker we need to be looking at? It's relatively low risk, but we also know that DB doesn't like signing "youngsters" out of Academies with no senior football under their belt so it doesn't leave loads of options.

[beew]

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/193906 ... 93435?s=46

Got a Brentwood town follower & a Southend ST holder in the office & this guy & his agent have been slutting themselves out since January. Time to make a decision for him.

He's one I thought we were in for in Jan. Seems pretty raw, but isn't this the sort of striker we need to be looking at? It's relatively low risk, but we also know that DB doesn't like signing "youngsters" out of Academies with no senior football under their belt so it doesn't leave loads of options.

He's linked to Colchester and Fleetwood as well. All depends on wage expectations but scoring on your trial helps

[Norfolkbee110]

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/193906 ... 93435?s=46

Got a Brentwood town follower & a Southend ST holder in the office & this guy & his agent have been slutting themselves out since January. Time to make a decision for him.

He's one I thought we were in for in Jan. Seems pretty raw, but isn't this the sort of striker we need to be looking at? It's relatively low risk, but we also know that DB doesn't like signing "youngsters" out of Academies with no senior football under their belt so it doesn't leave loads of options.

He's linked to Colchester and Fleetwood as well. All depends on wage expectations but scoring on your trial helps

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

[Jimbokav1971]

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/193906 ... 93435?s=46

Got a Brentwood town follower & a Southend ST holder in the office & this guy & his agent have been slutting themselves out since January. Time to make a decision for him.

He's one I thought we were in for in Jan. Seems pretty raw, but isn't this the sort of striker we need to be looking at? It's relatively low risk, but we also know that DB doesn't like signing "youngsters" out of Academies with no senior football under their belt so it doesn't leave loads of options.

He's linked to Colchester and Fleetwood as well. All depends on wage expectations but scoring on your trial helps

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

70% of former Cat 1 Academy players, (now aged between 21 and 26), don't get offered a pro contract.
97% of former Cat 1 Academy players, (now aged between 21 and 26), never make a Premier League or EFL appearance.

With the focus of the big clubs being on these players, it makes financial sense to to look at players who haven't already been signed by them.

The 3% that do are obviously in high demand and are often not released on a free or available for a transfer fee that we can afford to pay.

[becbee]

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

[Norfolkbee110]

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

That approach seems a tad blinkered as it shuts off a whole stream of talent. Getting a second chance could be just the spur they need. Yes they have been privileged- privileged to possess a talent.

[becbee]

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

That approach seems a tad blinkered as it shuts off a whole stream of talent. Getting a second chance could be just the spur they need. Yes they have been privileged- privileged to possess a talent.

Ultimately the only opinion that matters is Deano's and from how he spoke in his interview, he doesn't wish to go down that path. Given his excellent record on player recruitment, I'm happy for him to stick with what he believes in.

[EastBarnetFan]

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

That approach seems a tad blinkered as it shuts off a whole stream of talent. Getting a second chance could be just the spur they need. Yes they have been privileged- privileged to possess a talent.

Ultimately the only opinion that matters is Deano's and from how he spoke in his interview, he doesn't wish to go down that path. Given his excellent record on player recruitment, I'm happy for him to stick with what he believes in.

Agree, DB's obviously seen enough over the years to make that call and for a squad that is all about the right attitude, mental resilience, character and chemistry, he clearly doesn't feel like they'd be a good fit.

[hoofer2]

Dean confirmed that Billy Clifford has gone in a interview with Talksport's Ian 'Moose'Abrahams
https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/1938367891822293077

Would have been nice of the club to have officially told us this, rather than a garbled quick comment that I missed first time of listening.

I recieved a letter from Deano about it. I assumed that was standard procedure

Getting a message saying that link is deleted

Here is the new one - he originally posted it with video but assume the club were unhappy with all the leaked info in the background

https://x.com/BroadcastMoose/status/193 ... n7j0Q&s=19

Thank you!

[Jimbokav1971]

Surely a youngster who has come through the academy system at a Premier/-Championship club has a better chance of making the grade than a 25 year old, who has been playing non-League football and working in an office or on a building site.
I'm not ruling out the latter, but ex-academy youngsters can slot more easily into the routine of a full-time player. They may have been released once, but this will only make them more determined to prove they have what it takes to establish themselves in a career.

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

That approach seems a tad blinkered as it shuts off a whole stream of talent. Getting a second chance could be just the spur they need. Yes they have been privileged- privileged to possess a talent.

Ultimately the only opinion that matters is Deano's and from how he spoke in his interview, he doesn't wish to go down that path. Given his excellent record on player recruitment, I'm happy for him to stick with what he believes in.

Agree, DB's obviously seen enough over the years to make that call and for a squad that is all about the right attitude, mental resilience, character and chemistry, he clearly doesn't feel like they'd be a good fit.

I agree with Becbee, (based on what Deano has said in his interview), but we also shouldn't ignore his actions. RdH came from an Academy, (Fulham I think), and he was a big hit. He also had no issue with the personalities of young players such as Keeley (Spurs), and Potter (Sheff Utd), when they came in on loan. I don't think either had made a competitive appearance before playing for us. It could be argued that both have "character" in spades. Not your typical Academy products that Deano was describing.

Thinking it about it after someone pointed this out to me, I wonder is this Deano being very very clever ahead of "stage 3" of his recruitment process, where the chances are he will look to recruit some younger players, but maybe he wants to spell out to them that if they want to come here it won't be for the money and he will be managing expectations, (and wage demands), even before negotiations start.

As well as being a brilliant recruiter and a really good manager, I think Deano has improved enormously at the media stuff during his time with us. I think "the rant" was completely pre-meditated last season and I think him mentioning Billy Clifford leaving the other day, (not sure if it was to Moose or Rory), wasn't a flippant comment, but him really looking after Clifford and getting his name out there as a free agent. Again I think it was completely pre-meditated. I think the stuff about Osadebe and others taking a big pay cut to join us isn't just a throw-away line. I think he's pre-empting players who might think we could be a good move for them and lowering expectations and saving budget in doing so.

I think he's being very very clever.

[#Beebot]

Listen to Deano's interview and his comments about ex academy players. He clearly won't be going down that path, he said how they've lived a privileged life whereas his players have to clear up the changing room and take their dirty kit home to wash, etc. He said how 2 years ago Ade Oluwo was stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Our new academy coach, Gifton Noel Williams was the coach on the programme Boot Dreams. Some of lads on there were prepared to work really hard and make the most of their chance but too many just expected success to come to them. I suspect the two extremes is a fair generalisation of ex Prem / Champ academy players.

That approach seems a tad blinkered as it shuts off a whole stream of talent. Getting a second chance could be just the spur they need. Yes they have been privileged- privileged to possess a talent.

Ultimately the only opinion that matters is Deano's and from how he spoke in his interview, he doesn't wish to go down that path. Given his excellent record on player recruitment, I'm happy for him to stick with what he believes in.

Agree, DB's obviously seen enough over the years to make that call and for a squad that is all about the right attitude, mental resilience, character and chemistry, he clearly doesn't feel like they'd be a good fit.

I agree with Becbee, (based on what Deano has said in his interview), but we also shouldn't ignore his actions. RdH came from an Academy, (Fulham I think), and he was a big hit. He also had no issue with the personalities of young players such as Keeley (Spurs), and Potter (Sheff Utd), when they came in on loan. I don't think either had made a competitive appearance before playing for us. It could be argued that both have "character" in spades. Not your typical Academy products that Deano was describing.

Thinking it about it after someone pointed this out to me, I wonder is this Deano being very very clever ahead of "stage 3" of his recruitment process, where the chances are he will look to recruit some younger players, but maybe he wants to spell out to them that if they want to come here it won't be for the money and he will be managing expectations, (and wage demands), even before negotiations start.

As well as being a brilliant recruiter and a really good manager, I think Deano has improved enormously at the media stuff during his time with us. I think "the rant" was completely pre-meditated last season and I think him mentioning Billy Clifford leaving the other day, (not sure if it was to Moose or Rory), wasn't a flippant comment, but him really looking after Clifford and getting his name out there as a free agent. Again I think it was completely pre-meditated. I think the stuff about Osadebe and others taking a big pay cut to join us isn't just a throw-away line. I think he's pre-empting players who might think we could be a good move for them and lowering expectations and saving budget in doing so.

I think he's being very very clever.

All of this. The door definitely isn't shut to PL and Champ academy players. We just won't sign them unless we have assurance over what they are like first. A lot of clubs at this level and the NL will just take players released by academies without much thought

[ETBee]

I thought DB was a bit inconsistent in one thing he said, if I heard him correctly. He talked about older players wanting long contracts but it was more motivational to receive one year deals. Then he recruits Kizzi on a 3 year deal, I think. What length of contract does Oli Hawkins, aged 33, have? Maybe he was talking about a lesson he has learned!