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[Tuesds]

Did Ogunleye play at all? Or was the second trialist (there were two listed in the club’s line-up graphic, and one was confirmed as a keeper) someone else?

[BeeArmy22]

Did Ogunleye play at all? Or was the second trialist (there were two listed in the club’s line-up graphic, and one was confirmed as a keeper) someone else?

Nope no ogunleye. 3 trialists actually. Keeper and two left wing backs, one of the wing backs only got about 10 minutes.

[Bee1972]

Gutted if Stead goes. So pivotal to our team and very hard to replace.

Like others I would rather turn the money down and he leave on a free next year. However, I am assuming if he does go it’s because he has said he would like to talk to Reading. Can’t really blame him if that is the case. Big club at that level. Hope he stays, but doesn’t sound promising.

[northantsbee]

If Steady does go for £180k we will need every penny of that to buy a replacement anywhere near the calibre of Callum and his willingness to run after a crisp packet.

Tough one for the management, make him see out his contract, upset the player and lose him for nothing at the end of the season or take the money and hope that a suitable replacement can be found. I can't say I have faith that the remaining strikers and potential number 10's to do the job if he goes

[ETBee]

Last season DB hinted that Stead was pushing to play at a higher level so I have been expecting him to go, but £180k, we got £150k for Liam Hatch!

It will cost a lot more than £180k to get as good a replacement.

[FatherStairmaster]

Fair enough if he goes. Been magnificent for us and deserves an opportunity higher up. Trust DB and the team to nail the recruitment

[Jimbokav1971]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

It wasn't £180k for EMC though.

It was £180k + £1M (20% of his next transfer which was approx £5M).

And Posh get at least £1M if he gets promoted to the Premier League with Cov, (and we get 20% of that too, so another £200k).

So rather than £180k for EMC, it's already been £1.18M, with potentially another £200k to come.

If we do a deal like this then £180k is fine. If we don't then it's not. The add-ons can be worth much more than the initial fees.

[DSM]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

I think there’s a premium in pricing for (a) being in the EFL and (b) being a goal scoring CF so would expect more even though he’s only got 1 year left. £250k plus 20% sell-on would be a minimum for me

[BeeArmy22]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

It wasn't £180k for EMC though.

It was £180k + £1M (20% of his next transfer which was approx £5M).

And Posh get at least £1M if he gets promoted to the Premier League with Cov, (and we get 20% of that too, so another £200k).

So rather than £180k for EMC, it's already been £1.18M, with potentially another £200k to come.

If we do a deal like this then £180k is fine. If we don't then it's not. The add-ons can be worth much more than the initial fees.

Yeah that’s true. Id be surprised if we don’t have sell on clauses, but I think the potential of receiving substantial sums of money from them is far lower than it was for Ephron. Reading will push for the championship and to establish themselves back there, that’s probably steady’s ceiling.

[BeeArmy22]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

I think there’s a premium in pricing for (a) being in the EFL and (b) being a goal scoring CF so would expect more even though he’s only got 1 year left. £250k plus 20% sell-on would be a minimum for me

He’s not a CF though, and wouldn’t be good there on his own. Very few teams play with 2 strikers now, and he’s not a winger either. Of course he could develop into either one of those positions, but he’s platformed superbly by Brennan in our system and he’s reaped the rewards. Reading play a 433 so I’m not sure how he fits.

[DSM]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

I think there’s a premium in pricing for (a) being in the EFL and (b) being a goal scoring CF so would expect more even though he’s only got 1 year left. £250k plus 20% sell-on would be a minimum for me

He’s not a CF though, and wouldn’t be good there on his own. Very few teams play with 2 strikers now, and he’s not a winger either. Of course he could develop into either one of those positions, but he’s platformed superbly by Brennan in our system and he’s reaped the rewards. Reading play a 433 so I’m not sure how he fits.

He still scored 19 goals even though you’re right he’s not a CF.

Let’s hope this is pure silly season speculation and he’s in the training photos tomorrow!

[Jimbokav1971]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

It wasn't £180k for EMC though.

It was £180k + £1M (20% of his next transfer which was approx £5M).

And Posh get at least £1M if he gets promoted to the Premier League with Cov, (and we get 20% of that too, so another £200k).

So rather than £180k for EMC, it's already been £1.18M, with potentially another £200k to come.

If we do a deal like this then £180k is fine. If we don't then it's not. The add-ons can be worth much more than the initial fees.

Yeah that’s true. Id be surprised if we don’t have sell on clauses, but I think the potential of receiving substantial sums of money from them is far lower than it was for Ephron. Reading will push for the championship and to establish themselves back there, that’s probably steady’s ceiling.

I completely agree that Steady's ceiling is lower than that of EMC, but it could be argued that because they are now in League 1, (rather than the Championship), the potential for promotion, (or Steady being successful) is that much easier. I don't think for a minute that someone is going to pay £5M for Steady in 18 months, but I can absolutely see someone paying £500k+ for him in 18 months if things go well. The problem with all this is that as well as Steady has done with us, (he's been astonishingly good), the jump from National League to L1 is huge. (Saying that, there were some who suggested that he might struggle with the move to FT football and he took to it like a duck to water).

Whether Reading is a good fit for Stead remains to be seen, but the 433 they play isn't a proper 433 and the left winger they used a fair bit last season, (big young Nigerian lad with the long name), isn't a proper winger, but in any case I think he's left on a free.

The kid that played on the right last season is a winger, but he was only on loan and has joined Chavenage. Steady could actually be just what they need at the moment because he can play in multiple position and puts a shift in, on top of his numbers.

Really depends on what the new owners are doing though I suppose.

They lost £20M in 22/23 and £12M more in 23/24. We might not be able to play hardball on the cash portion of the fee, but I expect we possibly can on the add-ons.

If Steady is going to leave then good luck to him I say. In the past this would have been a disaster, (and I think he is possibly our 3rd most important player after Harts and Evans), but the difference now with Deano is that I have faith that he is capable of recruiting someone else to come in and fill that gap. Maybe not the same as Steady and maybe not as good as Steady, but someone who doesn't make it appear like there is a huge Steady sized gap in the team.

[BeeArmy22]

180k for mason clark so seems reasonable I guess. I’m shocked we’d let him go though, thought with what we did last season with Collinge and Kanu and letting them run their deal down, we’d show similar ambition and risk losing him on a free in the summer.

It wasn't £180k for EMC though.

It was £180k + £1M (20% of his next transfer which was approx £5M).

And Posh get at least £1M if he gets promoted to the Premier League with Cov, (and we get 20% of that too, so another £200k).

So rather than £180k for EMC, it's already been £1.18M, with potentially another £200k to come.

If we do a deal like this then £180k is fine. If we don't then it's not. The add-ons can be worth much more than the initial fees.

Yeah that’s true. Id be surprised if we don’t have sell on clauses, but I think the potential of receiving substantial sums of money from them is far lower than it was for Ephron. Reading will push for the championship and to establish themselves back there, that’s probably steady’s ceiling.

I completely agree that Steady's ceiling is lower than that of EMC, but it could be argued that because they are now in League 1, (rather than the Championship), the potential for promotion, (or Steady being successful) is that much easier. I don't think for a minute that someone is going to pay £5M for Steady in 18 months, but I can absolutely see someone paying £500k+ for him in 18 months if things go well. The problem with all this is that as well as Steady has done with us, (he's been astonishingly good), the jump from National League to L1 is huge. (Saying that, there were some who suggested that he might struggle with the move to FT football and he took to it like a duck to water).

Whether Reading is a good fit for Stead remains to be seen, but the 433 they play isn't a proper 433 and the left winger they used a fair bit last season, (big young Nigerian lad with the long name), isn't a proper winger, but in any case I think he's left on a free.

The kid that played on the right last season is a winger, but he was only on loan and has joined Chavenage. Steady could actually be just what they need at the moment because he can play in multiple position and puts a shift in, on top of his numbers.

Really depends on what the new owners are doing though I suppose.

They lost £20M in 22/23 and £12M more in 23/24. We might not be able to play hardball on the cash portion of the fee, but I expect we possibly can on the add-ons.

If Steady is going to leave then good luck to him I say. In the past this would have been a disaster, (and I think he is possibly our 3rd most important player after Harts and Evans), but the difference now with Deano is that I have faith that he is capable of recruiting someone else to come in and fill that gap. Maybe not the same as Steady and maybe not as good as Steady, but someone who doesn't make it appear like there is a huge Steady sized gap in the team.

I just don’t think we’ll get anyone in even near Stead’s level to be honest. Would love to be proved wrong but Stead benefited loads from that 6 months he had bedding into the team. We can’t really afford that luxury with a new signing, they’ll need to hit the ground running. On top of that anyone we do sign is not going to have even close to the same goal record as him, so will be a big gamble. Seems like financially we’re not capable of going out and signing the finished article

[DSM]

Shows we need to get Harts to re-sign as the closer it gets to expiry the less control we have. Assuming we’ve tried with him and possibly Zak already both of whom are in their option years.

[Doyley]

Don’t want stead to leave but am sure Deano and his staff have a plan A B and C for every eventuality on player departures