Ex-Bees (2014 update)

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Norfolkbee
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Post: # 376772Post Norfolkbee »

becbee wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 19:24
pletch99 wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:19
#Beebot wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:16 Sorry guys but Big John is completely past it. I'd rather we brought in O'Donkor on loan again
Completely agree, unless it’s a low cost pay as you play/score deal
Which, if there has been interest shown in him elsewhere, no way is he going to be interested in.
Just because somebody is 34, it doesn’t make them “completely past it”. A return to familiar surroundings with appreciative fans could give Akinde a whole new lease of life. A bit of knowledge and guile goes a long way when upsetting defenders. I can remember us signing Paul Furlong. He was turned 40 and concentrating on his coaching, but he didn’t do badly.
Maybe Akinde isn’t the one but don’t turn away players purely on age alone.
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Post: # 376773Post Patel89 »

Zak Jules signs for Rotherham
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Norfolkbee wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 20:04
becbee wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 19:24
pletch99 wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:19
#Beebot wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:16 Sorry guys but Big John is completely past it. I'd rather we brought in O'Donkor on loan again
Completely agree, unless it’s a low cost pay as you play/score deal
Which, if there has been interest shown in him elsewhere, no way is he going to be interested in.
Just because somebody is 34, it doesn’t make them “completely past it”. A return to familiar surroundings with appreciative fans could give Akinde a whole new lease of life. A bit of knowledge and guile goes a long way when upsetting defenders. I can remember us signing Paul Furlong. He was turned 40 and concentrating on his coaching, but he didn’t do badly.
Maybe Akinde isn’t the one but don’t turn away players purely on age alone.
I'm completely uninterested in his age. What does matter is that he's lost a yard of pace and just isn't effective anymore.

There's no point to bringing him back other than to satisfy nostalgia.
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376777Post rudebwoyben »

His injury record in the past few seasons since he left us has been pretty bad and that has probably blunted his pace.
becbee
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376781Post becbee »

I suspect most of us would rather remember John Akinde as the legend that he was for us than see him past his best.

He had a bad injury first half of last season but returned in December - 2 goals in 28 league appearances.

Agree he is not for us.
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376782Post hoofer2 »

Norfolkbee wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 20:04
becbee wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 19:24
pletch99 wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:19
#Beebot wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 17:16 Sorry guys but Big John is completely past it. I'd rather we brought in O'Donkor on loan again
Completely agree, unless it’s a low cost pay as you play/score deal
Which, if there has been interest shown in him elsewhere, no way is he going to be interested in.
Just because somebody is 34, it doesn’t make them “completely past it”. A return to familiar surroundings with appreciative fans could give Akinde a whole new lease of life. A bit of knowledge and guile goes a long way when upsetting defenders. I can remember us signing Paul Furlong. He was turned 40 and concentrating on his coaching, but he didn’t do badly.
Maybe Akinde isn’t the one but don’t turn away players purely on age alone.
41 year old Pepe!
Norfolkbee
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376784Post Norfolkbee »

I would actually be interested in what type of striker people think we should be going for. So far we've heard things like McCallum (to dear) or Akinde (past it), but no real concrete opinions on the way forward. IMO to get a decent striker with a proven track record, you either have to push the boat out or look for someone, who is nearing the end of their career, but still sprightly enough to deliver the goods. Any proven goalscorer in their mid to late 20s is likely to be on the radar of EFL clubs.
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376785Post hoofer2 »

A number - 10 Gash type...

If we have brought some pace to the team with goal scoring threat, someone who can thread a pass from central to the runners - still a focal point - but not necessarily a big target man.

I also see some merit in having a Fellaini type midfielder - tall enough to win headers in midfield and can play a bit too
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Post: # 376788Post Beesting »

I think we need an on the shoulder with lightning pace upfront
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Post: # 376790Post Tuesds »

Beesting wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 15:23 I think we need an on the shoulder with lightning pace upfront
Agreed - Browne and Stead are more likely to feature as no 10s or wide forwards (or in one of the two advanced slots in a ‘box’ midfield), so someone who can stretch teams and offer a threat over the top would be great.

O’Donkor was ideal, because he had pace and mobility and he was physical enough to occupy the centre halves and win his share of battles. And best of all, he was an excellent finisher who got more goals than we could have hoped for.

We obviously had to wait until the second half of the season for his availability, and we would be lucky to find someone of that quality this time around ready for the start of the season.

I mentioned Peterborough’s Pemi Aderoju above as a possible young loan prospect on the fringes of a good League One team, but other than the fact he was banging them in for Biggleswade FC before his Posh move, I don’t know how he plays. Nor do I know whether it’s in Peterborough’s plans to loan him out.
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376801Post hoofer2 »

Beesting wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 15:23 I think we need an on the shoulder with lightning pace upfront
Stead showed he is more than capable of doing this and scored goals going this when Kabamba was out - just don't think 2 up front is a tactical option for DB
Norfolkbee
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376802Post Norfolkbee »

hoofer2 wrote: 20 Jun 2024, 15:27
Beesting wrote: 19 Jun 2024, 15:23 I think we need an on the shoulder with lightning pace upfront
Stead showed he is more than capable of doing this and scored goals going this when Kabamba was out - just don't think 2 up front is a tactical option for DB
It can work providing the front two complement each other
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376816Post chesbee »

Sam Grenville signs permanent deal with Cheshunt
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376817Post hoppy »

chesbee wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 13:15 Sam Grenville signs permanent deal with Cheshunt
I believe that Sam Granville was the last player to go of the players that Mr Brennan inherited.
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Re: Ex-Bees (2014 update)

Post: # 376818Post Anthony »

hoppy wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 17:34
chesbee wrote: 22 Jun 2024, 13:15 Sam Grenville signs permanent deal with Cheshunt
I believe that Sam Granville was the last player to go of the players that Mr Brennan inherited.
I was always reasonably impressed by his performances, considering the team he was playing in when he was selected under Kewell. And then again when he was blatantly playing for a new contract at the end of the first Brennan season, he performed. If we had FL resources, I’d have expected us to keep him on. I wouldn’t be surprised if we heard from him again.
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