Gateshead Kicked Out

[DerekRocholl]

I think I am right in saying that it is the EFL that has the 10 year rule, not the NL. So Gateshead could have taken part in the play offs and the rule would only have come into effect if they had won at Wembley. Obviously the issue would then have to be addressed, and possibly resolved. The EFL also has a rule that teams are not allowed to have plastic pitches so why are Bromley in the play offs? What guarantees have Bromley given the EFL and NL that they will replace the pitch by a certain date if they won promotion? It seems that the EFL imposed an arbitrary, though perhaps sufficient, deadline on Gateshead to get the 10 year deal but have not imposed a similar deadline on Bromley, other than an assumption that it would be sorted out, like Sutton.

I think a good lawyer could make something of this.

I suspect that there are several teams in the NL who do not fulfill the full range of EFL requirements. I do hope that TK has ensured that we do!

Harrogate and Sutton both were able to remove the artificial pitch and install a grass one during a closed season so there is proof it can be done plus Bromley would have more time to do so due to the earlier end to our season. Although they have significantly more money Spurs can remove their pitch and put it back in a fortnight when they host the NFL games. The 10 year tenure was why (despite going out of the league prior to the move to the hive) people assumed the move to the Hive was initially for only 10 years as that had to be secured to satisfy Football league requirements at the time.

There was no such assumption, the 10 year term at the Hive was a stipulation Harrow Council made as a trade off that allowed them to remove a load of other potentially expensive provisions they were seeking to impose on the Club/TK to try to assuage local resident concerns if the move was made permanently.

I think the constraint was applied by Harrow Council as freeholder rather than as a planning condition and it was therefore removed when TK bought the freehold.

[wearebees]

Feel very bad for Gateshead, sounds like mainly their council to blame. I wonder what it would mean for next season if the issue doesn't get resolved. No point Gateshead playing if they can't get promoted?

This all shows the importance of owning your ground.

[jerroll]

I think I am right in saying that it is the EFL that has the 10 year rule, not the NL. So Gateshead could have taken part in the play offs and the rule would only have come into effect if they had won at Wembley. Obviously the issue would then have to be addressed, and possibly resolved. The EFL also has a rule that teams are not allowed to have plastic pitches so why are Bromley in the play offs? What guarantees have Bromley given the EFL and NL that they will replace the pitch by a certain date if they won promotion? It seems that the EFL imposed an arbitrary, though perhaps sufficient, deadline on Gateshead to get the 10 year deal but have not imposed a similar deadline on Bromley, other than an assumption that it would be sorted out, like Sutton.

I think a good lawyer could make something of this.

I suspect that there are several teams in the NL who do not fulfill the full range of EFL requirements. I do hope that TK has ensured that we do!

Harrogate and Sutton both were able to remove the artificial pitch and install a grass one during a closed season so there is proof it can be done plus Bromley would have more time to do so due to the earlier end to our season. Although they have significantly more money Spurs can remove their pitch and put it back in a fortnight when they host the NFL games. The 10 year tenure was why (despite going out of the league prior to the move to the hive) people assumed the move to the Hive was initially for only 10 years as that had to be secured to satisfy Football league requirements at the time.

There was no such assumption, the 10 year term at the Hive was a stipulation Harrow Council made as a trade off that allowed them to remove a load of other potentially expensive provisions they were seeking to impose on the Club/TK to try to assuage local resident concerns if the move was made permanently.

I think the constraint was applied by Harrow Council as freeholder rather than as a planning condition and it was therefore removed when TK bought the freehold.

Fair enough but we also had to satisfy FL regs which as you say purchasing the freehold eliminated any subsequent issues.

[SudburyBee]

Gateshead council statement

[Roy57]

Apparently the top brass at Bromley are "ambivalent" to say the least about promotion to the EFL because it would cost them a shed load of money replacing their illegal in the EFL plastic pitch....

With what has happened to Gateshead very surprised the EFL have not made Bromley show proof they have funds to convert there artificial pitch to a grass one in time for the start of next season if they were to get promoted. But would need to still show it before the start of the play offs as what would happen if they won the final but then declared they did not have the funds, would make yet further embarrassment to a already lets say confused in-laws professional play off elimanator.

[bfc_mo]

Apparently the top brass at Bromley are "ambivalent" to say the least about promotion to the EFL because it would cost them a shed load of money replacing their illegal in the EFL plastic pitch....

With what has happened to Gateshead very surprised the EFL have not made Bromley show proof they have funds to convert there artificial pitch to a grass one in time for the start of next season if they were to get promoted. But would need to still show it before the start of the play offs as what would happen if they won the final but then declared they did not have the funds, would make yet further embarrassment to a already lets say confused in-laws professional play off elimanator.

Imagine if the final is Barnet vs Bromley and Bromley get disqualified

[WillesdenBee]

Apparently the top brass at Bromley are "ambivalent" to say the least about promotion to the EFL because it would cost them a shed load of money replacing their illegal in the EFL plastic pitch....

With what has happened to Gateshead very surprised the EFL have not made Bromley show proof they have funds to convert there artificial pitch to a grass one in time for the start of next season if they were to get promoted. But would need to still show it before the start of the play offs as what would happen if they won the final but then declared they did not have the funds, would make yet further embarrassment to a already lets say confused in-laws professional play off elimanator.

Bromley were in the play offs last season and had no issue so doubt there would be any issue this time round either.

[Norfolkbee]

Irrelevant now, but, if Sarfend had squeezed into a play-off spot, would they have been allowed to take part, considering today's news of losses pushing towards £3million.

[rudebwoyben]

Did you see how much Wrexham were in loss by for last season? I don’t think Southend would have had any issues!

[John Hunt]

This is crazy. They should just scrap the play offs and promote the team who finished second.

[pauln50]

This is crazy. They should just scrap the play offs and promote the team who finished second.

Absolutely, where's the like button?

[Norfolkbee]

Did you see how much Wrexham were in loss by for last season? I don’t think Southend would have had any issues!

The only difference being that Wrexham could most likely take the hit and cover the debts. No guarantees that Sarfend can at this moment in time.

[letchbee94]

What is the deal with tem for next season? Can they still compete in national league if they are not allowed promotion to football league?

[Itsmeerc]

What is the deal with tem for next season? Can they still compete in national league if they are not allowed promotion to football league?

I thought they did eventually get the permission they needed but it came too late for last season’s play offs… that might not be entirely accurate though, just recall reading it somewhere online.

[hoofer2]

Irrelevant now, but, if Sarfend had squeezed into a play-off spot, would they have been allowed to take part, considering today's news of losses pushing towards £3million.

They should never have been permitted to start last season. It was obvious they were not going to be financially stable. Benefit of doubt as ex EFL. Not sure Maidenhead, Wealdstone, Borehamwood would have been permitted to start last season in NFL if in Southend's predicament